Ugh Dead Molly

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Well today was my birthday (july 5th) and my sister bought me 2 fish, a molly and a guppy. well i did the usual acclimating and i put them in the quarrentine tank and the guppy was fine, and te molly swam around the bottom occasionally going to the top. well one of my platys i spreg and llooks like she might burst so i put the 2 fish in my community (same stats and temp) and the guppy was fine and the molly did te same as the other tank. i put the platy in the quarrentine tank to have fry, and shes fine. i come back a few hours ago, everythings the same. i look now trying to go to sleep and the mollys dead and my bettas were eating the body!!!!!!!!!!! upon inspection of the body, there was nothing wrong with it. what happened???
 
Hello Spader --

A few questions:

How long did you quarantine the new fish for? Normally, they should be quarantined for a few weeks. By the sounds of things, you moved the new fish from quarantine to the big tank within one day.

Are you keeping the mollies in brackish water? Whatever else you may have read, mollies are much more reliable kept in slightly salty water. Add 5 grammes of marine (not aquarium or tonic) salt per litre of water. Guppies, platies, and swordtails are fine with this amount of salt, as are an assortment of other freshwater fish. However, catfish, tetras, barbs, and gouramis (including bettas) generally don't like salty water. Hence, you should only keep mollies in a livebearer aquarium.

When mollies are kept in freshwater they are subject to a variety of problems, all of which can be avoided by using salt. Even though you retailer will tell you they don't need salt, they do.

Are you keeping ratios of 2-3 females per male? Anything less leads to stress on the female fish, and stress leads to sickness. Never, ever buy livebearers in "pairs".

Fish should never be allowed to eat their dead companions. This is an excellent way for diseases to go from the dead fish to the living ones. If you, consider moving the betta to the 5 gallon tank, and leave the livebearers and the shrimp in the big tank. Add salt. Amano shrimps are fine in salty (brackish) water: they live in salty water in the wild, and will only breed in salty water. With luck, the salt will prevent any more fish getting ill, and you can certainly try keeping mollies again.

Cheers,

Neale

PS. What have you got against capital letters? You don't seem to like using them. Makes something difficult to read because the reader cannot see the breaks between sentences. Paragraphs are good, too, as you can probably tell by looking at my reply. The easier something is to read, the more replies you'll get.
 
Hello Spader --

A few questions:

How long did you quarantine the new fish for? Normally, they should be quarantined for a few weeks. By the sounds of things, you moved the new fish from quarantine to the big tank within one day.

Are you keeping the mollies in brackish water? Whatever else you may have read, mollies are much more reliable kept in slightly salty water. Add 5 grammes of marine (not aquarium or tonic) salt per litre of water. Guppies, platies, and swordtails are fine with this amount of salt, as are an assortment of other freshwater fish. However, catfish, tetras, barbs, and gouramis (including bettas) generally don't like salty water. Hence, you should only keep mollies in a livebearer aquarium.

When mollies are kept in freshwater they are subject to a variety of problems, all of which can be avoided by using salt. Even though you retailer will tell you they don't need salt, they do.

Are you keeping ratios of 2-3 females per male? Anything less leads to stress on the female fish, and stress leads to sickness. Never, ever buy livebearers in "pairs".

Fish should never be allowed to eat their dead companions. This is an excellent way for diseases to go from the dead fish to the living ones. If you, consider moving the betta to the 5 gallon tank, and leave the livebearers and the shrimp in the big tank. Add salt. Amano shrimps are fine in salty (brackish) water: they live in salty water in the wild, and will only breed in salty water. With luck, the salt will prevent any more fish getting ill, and you can certainly try keeping mollies again.

Cheers,

Neale

PS. What have you got against capital letters? You don't seem to like using them. Makes something difficult to read because the reader cannot see the breaks between sentences. Paragraphs are good, too, as you can probably tell by looking at my reply. The easier something is to read, the more replies you'll get.


I know all of that already. And about the capitals, that was quite rude. there was 1 molly, female. I didnt even want the molly, it was a gift and I was in a bad situation. also, i can only have 2 tanks, and my preg platy was about to have fry so i needed the quarrentine tank. once again i cant move the bettas. thanks anyway.
 
Spader --

Wasn't trying to be rude. If I was, do you think I'd have wasted 6 paragraphs of my time trying to answer your question? I'd have simply ignored your post.

I merely wanted to point I had to read and re-read your post several times to try and comprehend what it was about. Others, who may have been able to answer your question even better than me, might well have given up.

Anyway, if you "know all of that already" then why aren't you keeping the molly in brackish water? Nowhere in your original post does it say you can't move the bettas, so why say "once again i cant move the bettas"? The bottom line is you shouldn't have the mix of fish you have. If you can't house a certain fish, you shouldn't buy it, or if it's given as a present, you should return it (explaining to the gift-giver why, of course).

Cheers,

Neale
 
i couldnt keep it in brackish water as i received it THAT day, and i do not have salt. My mix of fish is fine, and I am not driving 3 hours to NEw jersey to return a fish, and the place does not even allow returns unless it is dead. I was in a bad situation, and you did not even answer my question as to what was wrong with it. bottom line, you lose. oh and about the once again i cant move the bettas, in the same post i said i am only allowed to have 2 tanks, and later i said once again i cant move the bettas, which is saying because i cant have mroe than 2 tanks i cant move the bettas, and i was reiteratiing a point.

Cheers
 

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