Two Male Jd's Together?

[sharpshark]

Well, I am having lots of questions answered at the minute, so thanks for every1's patience.

I bought a JD from my FS as I was having trouble finding a Electric Blue JD, one LFS told me they didn't even exist!! Well you can guess what happened, I bought it, a week later a little further a field than we usually travel, they are getting 40 EBJD's in for sale saturday for 25.00.

The question is, as the topic suggests, can I have two male (don't want to breed any) JD's in the same tank (the tank in question is 400 litres).

Thanks guys, look forward to a reply, hopefully the one I'm wanting to hear!!!

 

[severum boy]

I dont think it would work sorry!
Though JDs are not that agressive, they could have huge fights due to looking the same. If you want to, arrange it with the store that when you buy a blue JD, if they fight really badly, then they will acept the other back. They could live together, but im not sure. How big are they?

 

[sharpshark]

Well the original JD is about 2", the EBJD I can't be sure, though if they are getting 40 in, i would guess are fry. Which I suppose would cause me the problem of sexing them both, I might get two females, or male female, or male male. I can't afford to buy more than one at the minute either.

 

[vancouver]

EBJDs are not normally as aggressive as regular jds... so your regular jd would probably have an easy time beating it up.. ebjds in stores are normally no bigger then about an inch or inch and a half..

So your tank is about 100 gallons.. is it 4 or 6 feet long?

 

[sharpshark]

Yeah five by two by two feet.

 

[ox5477]

If possible (if you can persuade the owner/manager of your lfs), make a deal on 6 of the little guys, and try to get a pair. When a bond begins to form, you can give the other 4 back to the lfs and then they can do what they want with those. With your pair, hopefully they will start breeding and if you can get that to happen, you can make some good money, obv as you can see with the little 1" EBJD's costing around $25. If your pair has a 100 fry everytime they mate and maybe 45 to 50 survive to around .5" to 1", you got a good money source. The pair should be fine with plenty of room in your 5'x2'x2' tank. You can also try to include in the deal that you will sell most of the babies back to the lfs owner/manager at a discounted price and they may be more tempted to work with the original price of the 6 fish with you.

Make sure too, incase this is isnt clear, both JD's have to EBJD's. you can't mate one reg JD with an EB and expect to get an EB. The gene that causes the EB coloring is recessive and therefore will always take second place to another gene. So the only way to make it first is to make it so both genes the babies are gettin are the recessive EB gene.

 

[sharpshark]

If possible (if you can persuade the owner/manager of your lfs), make a deal on 6 of the little guys, and try to get a pair. When a bond begins to form, you can give the other 4 back to the lfs and then they can do what they want with those. With your pair, hopefully they will start breeding and if you can get that to happen, you can make some good money, obv as you can see with the little 1" EBJD's costing around $25. If your pair has a 100 fry everytime they mate and maybe 45 to 50 survive to around .5" to 1", you got a good money source. The pair should be fine with plenty of room in your 5'x2'x2' tank. You can also try to include in the deal that you will sell most of the babies back to the lfs owner/manager at a discounted price and they may be more tempted to work with the original price of the 6 fish with you.

Make sure too, incase this is isnt clear, both JD's have to EBJD's. you can't mate one reg JD with an EB and expect to get an EB. The gene that causes the EB coloring is recessive and therefore will always take second place to another gene. So the only way to make it first is to make it so both genes the babies are gettin are the recessive EB gene.

Great idea, I'd love to do that, but that means I can't have anything else in there with them right?

 

[vancouver]

You cant breed 2 ebjds together.. the fry will not survive.. breeding ebjds is not an easy thing to do.

You have to breed a regular jd with an ebjd, then out of those fry, you breed a regular jd (which will have the ebjd gene) to an ebjd.

Then some of the fry will be ebjds.

You cant just breed ebjd to ebjd... or ebjd to jd(without the ebjd gene).

 

[ox5477]

You cant breed 2 ebjds together.. the fry will not survive.. breeding ebjds is not an easy thing to do.

You have to breed a regular jd with an ebjd, then out of those fry, you breed a regular jd (which will have the ebjd gene) to an ebjd.

Then some of the fry will be ebjds.

You cant just breed ebjd to ebjd... or ebjd to jd(without the ebjd gene).

Thanks Vancouver. didnt realize it was so hard to breed them. Sorry for missposting

 

[~T~]

You cant breed 2 ebjds together.. the fry will not survive.. breeding ebjds is not an easy thing to do.

You have to breed a regular jd with an ebjd, then out of those fry, you breed a regular jd (which will have the ebjd gene) to an ebjd.

Then some of the fry will be ebjds.

You cant just breed ebjd to ebjd... or ebjd to jd(without the ebjd gene).

Thanks Vancouver. didnt realize it was so hard to breed them. Sorry for missposting

Its also possible to get them from breeding the offspring together but you will get more breeding a female fry back to the father.

I'm just looking for the right female to start the ball rolling.

 

[TerraDreamer]

How does one tell the sex of these?

Thanks,

Steve