"topaz Puffer" Is -?

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i've been researching dwarf puffers as an alternate for my 10g tank. i'm currently in the midst of a fishless cycle, and i have a betta lined up to occupy it -- but since bettas don't always adapt to a large tank, i've been looking for other "interesting" fish for me to keep.

dwarf puffer fish is amongst my contenders. i was thinking of simply owning one, or two at the max. it's a gravel/marble/small river rock combo substrate at the moment (very ugly, as I'm poor and had to make do with what I had on hand to begin with. Wish I'd waited long enough to get a sand substrate), with lots of bogwood (perhaps an over-abundance), anacharis, two fake plants, and a fair bit of java moss. it's got a tetra whisper 10i, rated at 90 gph, which is "current killed" (a pepsi bottle curl and some blockage at the intake), and an internal heater which is preset to 73 degrees or 86 degrees.

I know dwarf puffers generally prefer sand substrate, but my gravel is not 'sharp', so while not ideal, I imagine it's probably acceptable.

Now, I'm a bookish sort. I enjoy researching to death before I commit to a purchase, especially when my purchase is alive. I think I'll probably get a dwarf puffer some time in my life, even if i don't get it now, which means I'm researching doubly hard, and bookmarking twice as much.


Anyways, to the point:

At the only LPS which sells puffer fish, was an empty tank that had "puffer fish, $8.99" labeled on it. They told me that the puffer passed on before I could get there and get a good looksee, but I asked what sort it was before it died. They told me, "Topaz Puffer," and then indicated with a series of hand gestures how small it was, and that it got no more big "than this," and then indicated about an inch and a half. That sounded dwarfy to me, so I was pleased. I immediately flew home and googled it, only to discover that 'topaz puffer' was not generally a common named for dwarf puffers.

He did tell me they were freshwater puffers, and that they were tiny and stayed that way. I then read about ceylon puffers, and that they're often sold as freshwaters in their youth.

Ok, so now, at least, I don't trust my LPS.

But, on the off chance that he's wrong, and on the chance that my betta hates his new 10gal home, and on the chance that I get my gumption up to put research to live action use, how can a novice, who has only seen pictures, tell a ceylon puffer apart from a dwarf puffer, especially taking into consideration that puffers seem to vary in color depending on time of day and stress levels?

I do consider posting a picture on this forum and saying, "what that?" an option, but I was rather hoping it'd be a shade easier than that, and a little more independant.
 
Thank you, I've that site bookmarked for quite a few days now, but the pictures are itty bitty. I also made a printout of both suspected pufferfish.

I was hoping for textual advice, is that possible to give me... or is the pufferlist the only cure for what ails me?
 
well, you can check your local library for a copy of Aqualog's The Puffers of Fresh and Brackish Waters by Dr. Klaus Ebert. its THE book for freshwater puffers but its pretty pricey, at least in English anyways. lots of great info and plenty of pictures. :nod: if you live near a university, they're slightly more likely to have a copy.

most bettas do ok in tanks 10g and under, so long as they filtration isn't too rough. if you are just bound and determined to get a puffer, i really suggest the South American Puffer Colomesus Asellus. a planted 10g would be just fine for one SAP and mine is doing wonderfully on a gravel-type substrate. many SAPs can also be weaned onto eating processed foods, which isn't true of most other puffers.

the SAP is a very distinctive looking puffer with only one close relative (that i've never heard of anyone getting by accident). they are completely freshwater and stay pretty small but grow bigger than dwarves. the teeth trimming, should it become necessary, isn't really as difficult as it sounds. it's a bit nerve-wrecking, but nothing you and the puffer won't be able to get over.
 
thanks, i'll take a look at the book.

like i said, i'm the booky, over-researched sort. i even studied bettas for two months before i got myself one. i'm not exactly 'bound and determined' to get a puffer fish "OMG RIGHT NOW", or anything. i really just prefer knowing before buying, especially since they are a fish with different needs than your average guppy, ya know?

while i was at the LPS yesterday, some lady purchased a puffer, and then after being rung up, asked the clerk if it would be ok in her tank, and rattled off a series of fish, from plecos to a single neon tetra. :S damn. the clerk and i had the same exact reaction at the same time. :look: "uh, no."

dpf, adf, wcmm, kuhli loach, i'm looking into all those guys. i like reading about them. i could *kick* myself for not putting in a sand substrate, all the fish i really dig need/enjoy it.
 
Horray, sort of. My LPS said that the "topaz puffer" was actually listed on their order sheet as "bumblebee puffer", which according to the search function, is usually a South American Puffer.

It's 'horray', mostly because at least I know they aren't selling brakish puffers as freshwater, and 'boo' mostly because I really wanted an honest to gosh Dwarf Puffer.

I'm told he'll find out by Monday what the actual, latin name is, direct from the supplier.
 
Just so you know, the "topaz puffer" aka "bumblebee puffer" wound up being a Carinotetraobon trabancoricus, aka "Dwarf Puffer".

I'm not sure if I should do a little dance, or what. Mystery solved.
 
Just so you know, the "topaz puffer" aka "bumblebee puffer" wound up being a Carinotetraobon trabancoricus, aka "Dwarf Puffer".

I'm not sure if I should do a little dance, or what. Mystery solved.

:lol: you should change the title of this thread to "Why Common Names Are Useless" and get it pinned.

congrats on your find! :- may we all be so lucky in our purchases.
 
:blink: Oh yeah, puffers made me hate common names. I think the LPS winces whenever they hear my voice on the phone now, I ask a million questions in great detail and request odd things, like java moss! (gasp)

I'm glad he called the dealer and asked for me, though. It almost makes me actually want to purchase myself a single Dwarf Puffer, now, because of that. Especially since my empty, cycling tank, now has a snail population. Maybe by the time the tank is cycled, and I get my hands on a dwarf puffer, there will be enough snails for the little guy to be happy with the state of the world for a little while? I wonder if I just let these guys breed for a bit in my aquarium, a single dwarf puffer will be content for a bit?


So let that be a lesson to LFS owners, someone will buy from you if you answer all their questions cordially and don't roll your eyes in front of them when they spot you. :lol:
 

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