To Feeder Or Not To Feeder That Is The Question

[piranha_tim]

I was wondering what are your thoughts.

People farm pigs for the only purpose of killing and eating. Meat eaters do not have an issue with this.

People farm feeder fish for the consumption for there fish and people have issues with this.

Lets discuss.

 

[Genesis]

People farm pigs for the only purpose of killing and eating. Meat eaters do not have an issue with this.

Pigs are not eaten alive.

 

[piranha_tim]

[quote name=''genesis' post='2062513' date='Jul 12 2008, 10:49 PM'][quote name='piranha_tim' post='2062473' date='Jul 13 2008, 02:56 AM']People farm pigs for the only purpose of killing and eating. Meat eaters do not have an issue with this.[/quote]

Pigs are not eaten alive.
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So ... if someone killed the feeders first before putting into the tank you would be cool with that?

 

[Dorkhedeos]

[quote name='piranha_tim' post='2062516' date='Jul 12 2008, 08:54 PM'][quote name=''genesis' post='2062513' date='Jul 12 2008, 10:49 PM'][quote name='piranha_tim' post='2062473' date='Jul 13 2008, 02:56 AM']People farm pigs for the only purpose of killing and eating. Meat eaters do not have an issue with this.[/quote]

Pigs are not eaten alive.
[/quote]

So ... if someone killed the feeders first before putting into the tank you would be cool with that?
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Thats what frozen silversides are I would never feed goldfish feeders just because they are bad for the predators health. If i were to get feeders, I would either feed them tiger barbs, zebra danio, white clouds, or neons. Most fish can be trained on to dead food, so I dont think feeders are actually necessary. Silversides, sandeels, and krill seem to do the trick for almost all picky predators. Of course there are exceptions like chaca chacas and SA leaf fish.

 

[tangokitty]

My problem with feeders is the possible diseases they may have.

 

[Genesis]

[quote name='piranha_tim' post='2062516' date='Jul 13 2008, 04:54 AM'][quote name=''genesis' post='2062513' date='Jul 12 2008, 10:49 PM'][quote name='piranha_tim' post='2062473' date='Jul 13 2008, 02:56 AM']People farm pigs for the only purpose of killing and eating. Meat eaters do not have an issue with this.[/quote]

Pigs are not eaten alive.
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So ... if someone killed the feeders first before putting into the tank you would be cool with that?
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Yes, I would.
It's not the fact that they are being killed that concerns me, it's the fact that they are killed in such a brutal and barbaric way.
Letting one fish maul another is not a very humane thing to do.
I will happily feed my fish frozen bloodworm, but I would have issues with feeding, say, a goldfish to an arowana - it doesn't seem morally correct.
Just my beleifs.

 

[OohFeeshy]

So it's more ethical to dredge a fish up from the sea, with thousands of others, leaving no 'decompression' time, haul them on board a ship and leave them to suffocate to death?

 

[kj23502]

If I had an eel or lionfish, which I want someday, I'd have no problem feeding live fish to it/them. Not run of the mill goldies though.

Anyways, I believe I read somewhere that fish don't feel pain(don't know if it's entirely true) and feeders are meant to be that in the wild as well. I'd just chuck it in and let nature take it's course.

wow...a barbaric female doesn't happen to often around here, eh?

 

[kewskills]

I would not use feeders unless i really had too, then i would not feel guilty about doing it.

 

[wackystarfish]

I personally, am against it, but i can see the positives. I don't agree that nature has its 'feeders' though, Because, in the wild, the 'feeders' have the chance to get away, not confined in a tank.

 

[Anthony!]

I don't agree with feeder fish in the aquarium. Of course, one could make the argument that fish are eaten alive every day in rivers, streams and the oceans, but the difference is just that; the enviroment. The fish that are chased in open enviroments have a chance to escape, while feeder goldfish & guppies are in a closed enviroment, with nowhere to hide. I realize I may be a little radical in how I feel about feeders, but I also think keeping fish in aquaria that consume only live fish/food and cannot ever be weaned onto dead food is unethical.

 

[Mr._Fishy]

If I had an eel or lionfish, which I want someday, I'd have no problem feeding live fish to it/them. Not run of the mill goldies though.

Anyways, I believe I read somewhere that fish don't feel pain(don't know if it's entirely true) and feeders are meant to be that in the wild as well. I'd just chuck it in and let nature take it's course.

wow...a barbaric female doesn't happen to often around here, eh?

Fish do actually feel pain. The theory that they don't was disproved.

 

[Ace Of Spades]

I totally agree with it, especially if you have a Liverbearer tank and need to cut them numbers down no guilt here at all

 

[geo7x]

No need for it at all unless you keep one of the very few fish that are impossible to take off live food (e.g. leaf fish, chaca chaca)

People farm pigs for the only purpose of killing and eating. Meat eaters do not have an issue with this.

People farm feeder fish for the consumption for there fish and people have issues with this.

Very flawed comparison

This thread is only going to cause a flaming match.

 

[Genesis]

So it's more ethical to dredge a fish up from the sea, with thousands of others, leaving no 'decompression' time, haul them on board a ship and leave them to suffocate to death?

If you asked me 'would you rather be mauled by a large predator, say, a lion? or suffocated, which would you choose?'
I would surely say 'suffocated', therefore yes, I do think it is more ethical.