Tiny White Worms During Fishless Cycling With Flake Food

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Hi All,

I'm cycling a 24L heated tank (26C) with flake food (im in Australia and don't have access to ammonia). I've been adding about 1 spoon of fish flakes progressively to the tank over the last week. The way im doing it is initially adding them to an mesh bag (organza gift bag) and then letting it just soak for a day and then im rubbing the flakes between my fingers to get tiny particles. Sadly all this seems to have done is build up a LOT of debris in between the gravel
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the ammonia has only climbed a little bit and for the last few days I've seen some tiny white worms floating around in the water. They are about 5mm and as wide as a hair. they don't cling to anything but are rather floating around and occasionally wiggle a little. Im really not sure what these are but a quick google search says that they are feeding on the fish food in the gravel and arise with poor water quality. Any ideas on how to get rid of them? Should I do a PWC and give the gravel a good clean to take out the debris? or will this hinder my cycling? As of last night, ammonia was 0.5, Nitrite was 20ppm and Nitrate was 20 - 40 ppm (difficult to read the colour) my ph out of tap has always been very high, around 7.6. I've done no water changes for one week. I have one plant, one piece of store bought wood, two store bought lava rocks and an overhead compact flourcent light (11w). my filter is the kind that fits in the back of the tank with three separate compartments: two with filter media and a water pump in the third.

Just a bit of background, ive had this tank for about a month now and attempted fish-in cycling for the first three weeks. I found it impossible to control the ammonia even with daily 50% water changes for about two weeks and for the most part ammonia remained at 2-4ppm and I saw no nitrites or nitrates. then I added some filter water and also some ceramic noodles from a mature tank in an attempt to get the cycle going. I didn't realise that this other tank was teeming with nitrates and when I tested my water a day or two after adding, my nitrates were off the charts. my poor betta fish was really affected. So I moved him to clean water in a 10L tank and am now doing fishless cycling on the main tank.

thanks for your advice. Im very new to this hobby and would appreciate your thoughts...
 
I've dealt with them in the past.  They grow in the area between my lid and the cross brace.  When I open the lid, some of them fall into the water.  My fish snatch them up in seconds. ;)  No more problem.
 
Nothing to worry about.  When you add fish, the fish will eat them.  Just do a thorough gravel vac and try to source some proper ammonia.
 
eaglesaquarium said:
Nothing to worry about.  When you add fish, the fish will eat them.  Just do a thorough gravel vac and try to source some proper ammonia.
 
Sourcing proper ammonia is hard in Australia and New Zealand, the only stuff I could ever find was cloudy ammonia which foamed when shaken. Fish food and Shrimps are the most common ways to fishless cycle a tank in Aussie or NZ, I'm personally cycling mine with shrimp. 
 
As for all the mess, you could put the fish flakes in some pantyhose that have never been washed or worn, this will keep all the food in them. There's not really any reason to remove the flakes during the cycle, the reason being is they take awhile to break down so if you're changing them daily they won't have broken down. I would personally add a tablespoon weekly as that should last quite well and produce enough ammonia.
 
Also, wouldn't it be harder to keep the ammonia down in the 10L tank?
 
I didn't even look at the location... :blush:
 
Well, then as Blondie says - pantyhose or similar would be your best bet.  Place it in your filter and it'll be out of sight.
 
What are you trying to say? :p
 

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