This Looks Like A Fib To Me!
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liz2
Fish Aficionado
do you know I am not sure. in my experience if they are split they grow back either sealed together or hardly grow back at all. I wouldnt like to say never seen one like that though.... 
ibbledibble
Fish Addict
well i'm fairly certain its not a DT, as the split starts quite high up the tail and the dorsal fin doesn't look long enough.
on these pics of my DT Mischief you can see the extended dorsal fin which is a trait of DT's.
i do remember reading about lyretail bettas but can't remember where. will have to look it up, maybe its one of them?
on these pics of my DT Mischief you can see the extended dorsal fin which is a trait of DT's.
i do remember reading about lyretail bettas but can't remember where. will have to look it up, maybe its one of them?
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hollyp0p
Fish Herder
nah i didn't think it was a DT, but i don't think fish just randomly have split fins from birth.
It looks slightly raggedy on the bottom of the top half of that fish, looks a bit like my poor odin after all his finrot issues, he now has a split tail, which i'm not sure will heal, the bits around it regrow nicely
It looks slightly raggedy on the bottom of the top half of that fish, looks a bit like my poor odin after all his finrot issues, he now has a split tail, which i'm not sure will heal, the bits around it regrow nicely
Yuki_of_the_Stars
Fish Fanatic
That don't look natural. At all. if it was, it would be kind of pretty, though.
Gill
Store Manager Coalville Aquatics
Its Not Natural, its known as a Specific precision technique that some sellers use.
The will sedate the fish and with a scalpel trim the fins to hjow they want them to look.
Say you have a Lovley Ct but webbing is not perfect. a bit of skill with a scalpal and you can totally change the way it looks.
I have had to do this in the past for Bettas that have had nasty looking fins. that way nice new healthy fins can grow back. but sellers will and do use this to dupe people into thinking that a fish is something it is not.
You can see the new healthy growth of fins in the pic, which shows it has been trimmed.
The will sedate the fish and with a scalpel trim the fins to hjow they want them to look.
Say you have a Lovley Ct but webbing is not perfect. a bit of skill with a scalpal and you can totally change the way it looks.
I have had to do this in the past for Bettas that have had nasty looking fins. that way nice new healthy fins can grow back. but sellers will and do use this to dupe people into thinking that a fish is something it is not.
You can see the new healthy growth of fins in the pic, which shows it has been trimmed.
modaz
Getting old, but nowhere near knackered, i just lo
sorry peeps but i dont agree, ive had lyretails and doubletails come in that look dreadful its down to the genes being badly placed in the betta chromozones, its not down to cutting the tail to make the fish sell as DT, VT lyre or DT are a bad strain as it is and a few of them are just not good examples, the vt is used in crossing with a DT for a particular reason....to extend the tail, all these fry are vt but dt genotypes and then crossed again giving a lot of this type of messy DT tail, if crossed again the better tails are produces and then they are used to cross into halfmoons to widen the spread of the DT and to give the wider dorsal that people associate with a good DT.
you'll prob say why not just go to the halfmoon and cut out the vt, the reason for this is b/c the length of the tail at the start of created this tail is important as the tail gets smaller thru crossing so when you get to the desired tail shape you havent lost the length so much.
you'll prob say why not just go to the halfmoon and cut out the vt, the reason for this is b/c the length of the tail at the start of created this tail is important as the tail gets smaller thru crossing so when you get to the desired tail shape you havent lost the length so much.
modaz
Getting old, but nowhere near knackered, i just lo
the black circle is where there is water on the glass, you can see it all over the glass and distorts the betta so it looks like theres something there when there isnt, the blue circle is black and black is finrot not regrowth, regrowth is white or clear
Gill
Store Manager Coalville Aquatics
Amerce
Fish Herder
This is a site I found some time ago regarding tail trimming on Betta's and gives clear pictures on what occurs and how they look after a trim.
The practice is carried out and you have to be careful when buying an intricate tailed betta, hopefully this should help folk that want advise, please be aware that this site is also advertising the guys books and this is not why I'm posting the topic, but it does have some great shots of the trimmed and untrimmed tails.
Tail trimming
The practice is carried out and you have to be careful when buying an intricate tailed betta, hopefully this should help folk that want advise, please be aware that this site is also advertising the guys books and this is not why I'm posting the topic, but it does have some great shots of the trimmed and untrimmed tails.
Tail trimming
Gill
Store Manager Coalville Aquatics
Ah thanks,
I knew i had read it somewhere, when i needed to help my Old Half Giant who had been shredded by tiger barbs a few years ago.
ibbledibble
Fish Addict
i still don't agree with it personally, i've had fish with really bad fin rot and had to treat for about 2 weeks before it started to show improvement, but eventually it did start to improve and as soon as the finrot was gone the fins slowly started to grow back.
it even says in the FAQ's for that DVD
i would expect it to be a very last resort, not just for "nasty looking fins" even if his fins don't look perfect is it really fair to cut him up to make him look better?
it even says in the FAQ's for that DVD
i would expect it to be a very last resort, not just for "nasty looking fins" even if his fins don't look perfect is it really fair to cut him up to make him look better?
Amerce
Fish Herder
I'm not for tail trimming I think it should only be done if the poor thing is in a bad way and the fin rot is persistant.... but then again I couldn't face doing a tail trim, it's not like trimming your toe nails and I'm not sure how much the fish would feel.
It is done on coldy's cause I've also seen a topic where koi are trimmed when there is a problem.
As for the fish being sold on Ebay, the guy does NOT state that the fish is a DT, only that his split tail is " natural and not due to fin picking", so no misadvertising. This could be a natural fork tail and just a genetic issue with this particular fish.
Trimming for aesthetic reasons or to misrepresent a fish is wrong, and should only be used as a last resort, tails will grow back with loving care and plenty of clean water, trying to rush a tail repair could cause more damage than good.
It is done on coldy's cause I've also seen a topic where koi are trimmed when there is a problem.
As for the fish being sold on Ebay, the guy does NOT state that the fish is a DT, only that his split tail is " natural and not due to fin picking", so no misadvertising. This could be a natural fork tail and just a genetic issue with this particular fish.
Trimming for aesthetic reasons or to misrepresent a fish is wrong, and should only be used as a last resort, tails will grow back with loving care and plenty of clean water, trying to rush a tail repair could cause more damage than good.
dusky
Fishaholic
Quite right Amerce why trim tails when as you say with love and care they will grow back anyway. Tatty tails don't bother me as long as the fish is healthy. Also this thing about if they can feel it or not,,,,,if the tails are able to grow back then they must have nerves and a blood supply? and in which case then yes of course they could feel it.
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