There Is Something Very Wrong With My Fish...

[Julz]

Please can ANYONE enlighten me???

I put up a thread about this same fish a couple weeks ago, but have drawn a blank...a few days ago, I found "her" swimming as normal...

Now she's doing anything but swimming normally...inlcuding swimming upside down, lying upside down on the bottom of the tank... her normally goldeny scales underneath her, are now white gives the appearence of fallen off.....

I'll even get you pics of her if i have to!!

Is she dying???

 

[WILDER]

There the signs of a dying fish.
How many gallons is the tank.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

Sadly there no hope for her now she dying.

 

[Julz]

Here are a couple pics...

what do you think???

Karen is a Black Moore.

the other fish (findlay) is a Lionhead goldie...

that's all...Findlay is swimming beisde Karen... im not sure she is dying... she's trying to swim, but looks more disorientated than dying...tbh! I took out the plastic plant, as she kept swimming into it!

 

[WILDER]

Need to answer the above questions on tank size, and water stats.
The pics are to dark.
I kept fancy goldifsh and once there on there backs and upside down they don't usually make it.

 

[Julz]

The answer is in my other thread

http/www.fishforums.net/content/New-to-t...Need-Some-Help/

if the answer isnt there, then I dont know!

You can see on the black fish (black moore) that the scales are a goldeny colour, and further down are paler/white... it almost looks like just skin and no scales

 

[WILDER]

If the black moor has golden scales is sound like velvet.
Is the fish flicking and rubbing against objects.
Going to read your other post now.

 

[Julz]

If the black moor has golden scales is sound like velvet.
Is the fish flicking and rubbing against objects.
Going to read your other post now.

What's "velvet"??

flicking? could be? not rubbing agaisnt any objects as no ojects in tank.

 

[Julz]

i have googled velvet... it could be this! ####, my poor fish!!

 

[WILDER]

Velvet looks like a gold dusting on a fish, or yellow golden spots, or can look like a rusty varnish on a fish.
Can also look like the fish has been sprinkled in a dusting of talc.

Your tanks way to small and the wrong shape.
Goldfish need length not height in tanks.
The first goldifsh alone need 20 gallon then 10 gallon for every other goldfsih added to the tank.
They are massive waste producers so need double the filter size to the tank.

I would invest in a liquid test kit in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.
If you cant get the tank the goldfish need I would rehome them as there going to die of ammonia poisong and stunted growth.
http/www.fishforums.net/content/Coldwate...-fish-in-tanks/

 

[Julz]

Ok, thanks!!

I will do something about it at the weekend!

 

[WILDER]

Can I ask what you are going to do?

 

[Julz]

Er...no..lol.... might try and find a specialist shop.... i think she is dying anyway, have put her in a separate "tub"...i see she is now bleeding from her back end :'( :'( .... what of the other fish? will he get it too?

 

[Genesis]

You should isolate the fish, yes.
Maybe euthanise it with clove oil?
Put it out of it's suffering?

 

[Julz]

Karen has died

now about the other fish... what should i do? clean the tank? and how do i know if Findlay hasnt got it too... he looks awfy depressed....

Also what do i do with the body?

 

[Honeythorn]

Hi, you need to get a larger tank for that remaining goldfish.

I recall you said it was a lionhead? Most fancy's do actually get quite large , about cricket ball sized. Your best bet IMO would be 30 gallons for him on his own . That's a tank about 3 feet long.

If you can get a bigger one than that then even better. That hexagonal tank is nowhere near big enough. Goldfish of all kinds are very messy , they eat a lot and produce a lot of waste, so they need a good filter.

A nice 30 gallon with a large filter ( I'd personally go with an external like an Eheim ) and some tough plants like java ferns tied to a rock or bogwood/log, or some decently realistic silk plants would be just great for your remaining fish.

You don't need to buy a brand spanking new tank, look in the classified section of newspapers for second hand tanks ( check them thoroughly if you get one though ) , it will save you a good deal of money.
If you cannot get a larger tank or do not have room, then it will be far kinder to find someone who can give him the right size home.

In the meantime do a 30- 50% water change and watch closely for any possible signs of disease/illness in the lionhead.

As for the body of Karen, DON'T flush it down the toilet, you will block it up. Wrap the fish in many layers of newspaper, stick that in a plastic bag and tie the top tightly. Then put it in the dustbin. Don't bury it or you will more than likely get it dug up by a cat or something.