Maximumbob
Fish Crazy
Hey guys,
2 weeks ago I introduced 2 german blue rams into my established tank. One developed a fungal infection at the anterior tip of his dorsal fin... after a few days this spread to the other ram who had 3 X 1-2mm cotton wool growths on the top of his/her head.
I treated with protozin and at the end of the course the rams fungus has pretty much cleared up. The difficulty now is that I have noticed small white dots on their fins - these are very small in diameter 0.5 - 1mm. I suspect that its ich, but am puzzeled as to how it could develop during a course of protozin (a whitespot med)??? I was about to pop in a charcoal filter pad into the tank to remove the last of the protozin when i noticed the spots. What do I do next?
Info follows:
Tank size: 180 litres
pH: 6.8-7.2
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 10-20 ppm
kH: 3
gH: 8
tank temp: 25
Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):
The rams seem much happier without the fungal infection, they were hiding in my java fern a lot. Appetite seems to be returning a little, and colour has improved slightly.
Volume and Frequency of water changes: 60 litre water changes every 7-10 days
Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: Treatment - protozin. Setup - Eheim 2324 thermo with mech/pro media - DIY CO2 adding potassium sulphate 3 times weekly and trace 3 times weekly. No charcoal filter.
Tank inhabitants: 4 golden panchax(3m1f), 3 dwarf blue gourami's (1m2f), pictus cat, 1 bristlenose plec (stealthy boy - not seen him in over a month), 1 SAE, 2 silver tip tetras 4 swordtails(2m2f - 1 female currently in breeder tank), 2 blue rams.
Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): SAE and the 2 rams. I also did a medium sized tidy of the plants and introduced some amazon swords & removed some indian fern, changed the Co2 diffuser for cleaning (replaced with a wood defuser). I still have the internal juwel filter in situ, but have had it running alongside my eheim for over a month, and recently have been removing approx 1 filter sponge per fortnight with the view of removing it in a few weeks leaving just eheim in situ.
Unfortunately I am unable to provide a digi pic as my son broke my camera earlier this week
thanks for help in advance
Max
edit: Tank has been up and running for over 1 year. No ammonia, or nitrite levels above 0 since the start. Nitrates initially varied 20-40 in first 6 months.... difficult to get them above 10ppm currently.. am considering adding nitrates to water colum for plant ferts.
2 weeks ago I introduced 2 german blue rams into my established tank. One developed a fungal infection at the anterior tip of his dorsal fin... after a few days this spread to the other ram who had 3 X 1-2mm cotton wool growths on the top of his/her head.
I treated with protozin and at the end of the course the rams fungus has pretty much cleared up. The difficulty now is that I have noticed small white dots on their fins - these are very small in diameter 0.5 - 1mm. I suspect that its ich, but am puzzeled as to how it could develop during a course of protozin (a whitespot med)??? I was about to pop in a charcoal filter pad into the tank to remove the last of the protozin when i noticed the spots. What do I do next?
Info follows:
Tank size: 180 litres
pH: 6.8-7.2
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 10-20 ppm
kH: 3
gH: 8
tank temp: 25
Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):
The rams seem much happier without the fungal infection, they were hiding in my java fern a lot. Appetite seems to be returning a little, and colour has improved slightly.
Volume and Frequency of water changes: 60 litre water changes every 7-10 days
Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: Treatment - protozin. Setup - Eheim 2324 thermo with mech/pro media - DIY CO2 adding potassium sulphate 3 times weekly and trace 3 times weekly. No charcoal filter.
Tank inhabitants: 4 golden panchax(3m1f), 3 dwarf blue gourami's (1m2f), pictus cat, 1 bristlenose plec (stealthy boy - not seen him in over a month), 1 SAE, 2 silver tip tetras 4 swordtails(2m2f - 1 female currently in breeder tank), 2 blue rams.
Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): SAE and the 2 rams. I also did a medium sized tidy of the plants and introduced some amazon swords & removed some indian fern, changed the Co2 diffuser for cleaning (replaced with a wood defuser). I still have the internal juwel filter in situ, but have had it running alongside my eheim for over a month, and recently have been removing approx 1 filter sponge per fortnight with the view of removing it in a few weeks leaving just eheim in situ.
Unfortunately I am unable to provide a digi pic as my son broke my camera earlier this week

thanks for help in advance
Max
edit: Tank has been up and running for over 1 year. No ammonia, or nitrite levels above 0 since the start. Nitrates initially varied 20-40 in first 6 months.... difficult to get them above 10ppm currently.. am considering adding nitrates to water colum for plant ferts.