Tetras Keep Dying

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I am having a problem keeping tetras in my community tank
Had 6 neona and 6 black neons now down to 2 and 1
They seem to be dying each time I do a partial water change. All my water test levels are ok but have noticed an increase in PH
Any help gratefully recieved
thanx Mark
 
do you use water conditioner. could do with your water stats, amonia nitrite natrate and ph.
 
How many gallons is the tank.
How big is the ph increase.
What your tap ph.
Can you list everything thats in the tank.
If the ph has changed alot a water change can alter ph.
Do the fish show any signs of ph shock.

pH Shock

As its name suggests this condition occurs when a fish is introduced to quickly into a new environment which has a very different pH from the one it came from, when the pH is adjusted to quickly and the fish have little or no time to adjust themselves, or when the pH is to far outside the fishes normal range.

It is very important that any change in water chemistry is made slowly and fish should never be exposed to changes of pH greater than 0.5 of one unit on the pH scale in either direction.

Avoidance is by far the best solution because in most cases the symptoms don't appear until the second or third day by which time the damage has been done and the fish will probably die.

A fish suffering from this condition will show all the typical signs of shock -

Lying on the bottom and paying little or no attention to its surroundings and ignoring potential threats.
It may even lay on its side or go upside down completely.
There could be other signs to, related to Acidosis and Alkalosis
Excessive mucus production.
Rapid breathing.
Swollen abdomen. (Alkalosis only).
If the condition is allowed to go on for one or two days then the chances of a successful remedy are greatly reduced because a lot of damage will have taken place. If the symptoms are spotted early enough there are a couple of things that will help.

Begin to return the pH to the original pH in steps of 0.4 of one unit on the pH scale and allow 3 hrs in between the adjustments. Make these adjustments until the pH is returned to a safe and satisfactory level.
Treat the tank with a broad spectrum anti-Bacteria/Fungus compound to prevent secondary infections of the Skin and Gills.
Prevention is easy. A successful treatment isn't!
PH SHOCK LINK
http://groups.msn.com/FishHealth/phshock.msnw
 
Thankyou for a very informative response.
The fish have definitely shown some of the symptoms described - lethargy , isolating themselves etc before dying.
Have just retested and PH is now 7.2 ( I removed a quantity of rocks - which has hopefully worked)
My tank is 75L
and contains
6 platys , 6 guppies 12 neon tetras , 1 black neon , 1 clown loach , 1 golden loach and a male fighter
Rest of water stats
NH4 - 0
NO3 - 0
NO2 - 20
 
Your tanks overstocked.
Clown loaches need 100 gallon tank as they get bigger.
Also they shouldn't be kept in less than a group of three.

Can you list everything you have in the tank from substrate to ornaments.
 
Male fighter and clown loach rehoused
BUT the neons still keep dying now down to 5 neons left and the very hardy 1 black neon
All other fish well and healthy looking.
As stated before all water stats fine
????????????????

Tank substrate is mainly sand with a little gravel , 5 limestone rocks and 6 artificial plants of varying sizes
 
Why have you got limestone rocks in your tank? Surely this is going to increase ph making the slightest trace of ammonia very dangerous to your fish. Getting rid would be a good start I think!! Besides Neons don't like alkaline conditions they thrive in < ph 7.0.
 
PH is and has been a constant 7.2
The tank already had rocks in when I inherited it (Used to have cychlids in also)
I am trying to create a friendly community tank as only a beginner ( removed alot of the original rock as PH was high 8+)
Would you recommend removing all the rock ??
 
I would remove the rock.
What's your tap ph.
 
Since I started posting today I have lost another neon - down to 4 now :sick: :sick:
Aww, I'm sorry... :(
Did you take the limestone rocks out of your tank? Are the neons still showing the same behavior as when they first started dying?
 
Since I started posting today I have lost another neon - down to 4 now :sick: :sick:
Aww, I'm sorry... :(
Did you take the limestone rocks out of your tank? Are the neons still showing the same behavior as when they first started dying?
Now down to 3 neons :sick:
Rocks have been removed
The remaining tetras seem now to be attempting to hide from something ??? and are all looking slow in their actions.
Of those that have died unless I have spotted and removed the bodies have seemed to just vanished ??? All of my other tank fish are friendlies and I have seen no signs of the tetras being chased or harrassed ???
Again strangely the 1 black neon still survives and that was from the initial shoal ???
My instincts are telling me that something is eating them or I am just going crazy
 
Wow thats a big difference in ph.
it sound like there dying of ph shock to me.
 

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