Tailstanding And Bloating

[Gypsy5]

Tailstanding and bloating

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Hi all, I apear to have a problem in one of my tanks. It has baby mollies and female guppies in it but the guppies seem to be developing a problem. I lost a female baby guppy last week through excessive bloating, she looked fit to burst before she died. This week I have another baby female that is starting to bloat(I suppose they're not babies any more but they are very small - colours only come in a month or so back). She isn't eating, can't see any poo and she just hides under the plants (that's what the one that died did).

I also have a couple of adult female guppies that have gone pale (almost see through in places) and their tails are bent downwards like they've got weights on the ends of them. One of them is swimming tail down/head up constantly now and not moving her tail at all when swimming. They are both still eating. Some of the other baby guppies are scratching violently although none of the baby mollies have any problems whatsoever.

Established tank (been running for about 5 months) - Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 20, PH 7.4.

I have an undergravel filter as well as a Fluvel 1 for a bit of extra movement and 15% water changes with gravel vac done every week. No new plants/ornaments/little fishy people added recently.

Have treated previously with Flubenol and am now using Octozin for the bloating.

It seems to be all different things happening but I'm sure it's one thing causing a range of symptoms.

Can anyone help? Thanks.

 

[Gypsy5]

Bump

Can anyone help at all? Thanks

 

[WILDER]

Swim bladder and the tail weighing them down.
Espon salts baths, feed peas, and a bacterial med.
What does it look like when the fish go to the toilet as guppys are very prone to camallanous worms.
http/www.fishjunkies.com/Treatments/salt.php

 

[Gypsy5]

Thanks for the reply. Just to update, I continued using Octozin anmd the bloated fish is now swimming normally again and looking well. The one that is tailstanding has a very clamped tail and is not moving it at all, she's getting around purely by the power of her fins. She's eating well, rushing up to the top of the tank with all the others. I have fed peas but she has difficulty getting her head down to the bottom of the tank. She has no problem keeing upright or still but it's like she's balancing on her tail end so she can't get down for the peas.

I had wondered whether this could be velvet. I have had a look at all the fish and the guppies definitely seem to have a gold sheen about them, although it's hard to tell whether this is natural colouring/sheen. The mollies are all still fine. Would velvet show these tail clamping symptoms?

Thanks.

 

[WILDER]

To be honest she dosnt sound to good.
What do you feed your fish?
Velvet get a torch turn tanks lights out if the gold glows up with the torch it could be velvet.
Any signs of flicking and rubbing.
http/www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/heal...thprotist.shtml

 

[Gypsy5]

I can see the gold when I shine the torch on the fish and have got some of the guppies flicking on the gravel. I feed them flake food and algae wafer with peas and frozen daphnia/brine shrimp a couple of times a week.

She doesn't look too good, that's true, but she's still fighting, poor lass. I put my last treatment of Octozin in last night. It says wait 48 hours before using any other treatment but if I did a 50% water change tonight would I be able to start tonight with Protozin or another recommended medication?

Thanks for taking the time to answer, I know how busy you are on here.

 

[WILDER]

Sounds like they do have velvet then if the fish are golden and they are flicking and rubbing.
Velvet worse than whitespot to get rid off and far nastier.
They can go thin with velvet too.
There is a med called anti slime and velvet med by interpet if waterlife not doing the job on the velvet.
Turn temp up to 30 and increase aeration with the high temp and med.
Good luck.

 

[Gypsy5]

Unfortunately my lady guppy died on Thursday. It must be something catching though cos I now have two male guppies in a different tank with weighed down tails. They aren't clamped and the guppies seem to be able to use them for swimming. One of the males this morning is laying at the bottom of the tank and trying to swim upwards but he seems to be finding it difficult today (was swimming normally yesterday and feeding along with everyone else).

Swimbladder? Bacteria? Constipation?

I'm stumped.

 

[WILDER]

R.I.P.
What does it look like when the fish go to the toilet.
Try some shelled peas on the fish as well.