Suggestions For 200Ltr Tank. Already Have 2 Goldfish

[greengoddess]

Hi,

After a recent post on here I am planning to invest in a much larger tank. I have 2 goldfish squashed into a 25ltr tank. I plan on a 200 or 240ltr tank very soon. Can any of you suggest any other interesting creatures that I could put in the new tank that would happily live alongside my goldfish? I am open to all ideas, not just fish.

 

[anwhyte]

Hi,

After a recent post on here I am planning to invest in a much larger tank. I have 2 goldfish squashed into a 25ltr tank. I plan on a 200 or 240ltr tank very soon. Can any of you suggest any other interesting creatures that I could put in the new tank that would happily live alongside my goldfish? I am open to all ideas, not just fish.

weather loaches are coldwater & will live on the tank bottom, there are several crayfish species that like coldwater conditions as well.

 

[MewMew42]

these are some sub tropical species you could think about:

white cloud mountain minnows
zebra/leopard danios
pearl danios
bloodfin tetras
cherry barbs
hillstream loach
weather loach
albino/bronze corydoras

 

[plecostomus-mad]

in my honest opinion i would rehome the messy goldfish and use the 200-240ltr tank for tropical. far more variety of fish to choose from.in a 200ltr tank you would be pushing it at 3 goldfish. they poo ALOT and i think the tank would be wasted but each to there own

mark

 

[greengoddess]

in my honest opinion i would rehome the messy goldfish and use the 200-240ltr tank for tropical. far more variety of fish to choose from.in a 200ltr tank you would be pushing it at 3 goldfish. they poo ALOT and i think the tank would be wasted but each to there own

mark

Thanks Mark but the only reason I'm buying a new tank is because my goldfish need more room. I'm just wanting some ideas of what to put in with them to give a little more variety. Thanks to the others on here for their good suggestions.

 

[plecostomus-mad]

in my honest opinion i would rehome the messy goldfish and use the 200-240ltr tank for tropical. far more variety of fish to choose from.in a 200ltr tank you would be pushing it at 3 goldfish. they poo ALOT and i think the tank would be wasted but each to there own

mark

Thanks Mark but the only reason I'm buying a new tank is because my goldfish need more room. I'm just wanting some ideas of what to put in with them to give a little more variety. Thanks to the others on here for their good suggestions.

thats good that you want give them more room. but you will be limited to stocking your tank because of the goldies.

 

[three-fingers]

Are they fancy goldfish or regular ones like comets, shubs or commons?

these are some sub tropical species you could think about:

white cloud mountain minnows
zebra/leopard danios
pearl danios
bloodfin tetras
cherry barbs
hillstream loach
weather loach
albino/bronze corydoras

I scratched the species of that will be eaten by non-fantail goldfish, aren't suited to unheated tanks, or both.

Corys are a risk with bigger goldfish, but in a 200L you should be fine.

I would go with peppered corys, not albino/bronze - which are tropical species IMO, they would prefer a heater in their tank to at least bring it up to 23-24*C (fishbase and wikipedia actually list 25*C as the natural temperature).

Cherry barbs are more tropical too...they would need a heater, non-fantail goldfish would eat them as well.

You could add a heater with the goldfish if you wanted...but speeding up their metabolism would mean you would have to add a lot of other equipment to keep the water clean and oxygenated for these big, messy and oxygen demanding fish - like a vastly over rated external, and a spraybar splashing at the surface or a big airpump.

Hillstream loaches aren't suitable simply because they require different conditions to goldfish (better water conditions, faster water flow) and they don't compete well for food at all with them. They seldom last longer than a few months with goldfish.

Options for keeping with comets/shubs/commons would be Buenos Aires tetras and rosy barbs, as well as rosy red minnows.

If they are fantails of some sort, then the danios/tetras will be perfectly fine. Bigger Amano shrimp would be suitable too, as well as variatus platies (normal platys should be fine tbh, they are usually hybrids you find in stores).

Good to see your giving the goldfish more room, they are fun fish to keep if you like big eating/pooping machines . They will grow fast and you can always find them a garden pond in summer if you want to focus on other fish.

 

[greengoddess]

Are they fancy goldfish or regular ones like comets, shubs or commons?

I scratched the species of that will be eaten by non-fantail goldfish, aren't suited to unheated tanks, or both.

Corys are a risk with bigger goldfish, but in a 200L you should be fine.

I would go with peppered corys, not albino/bronze - which are tropical species IMO, they would prefer a heater in their tank to at least bring it up to 23-24*C (fishbase and wikipedia actually list 25*C as the natural temperature).

Cherry barbs are more tropical too...they would need a heater, non-fantail goldfish would eat them as well.

You could add a heater with the goldfish if you wanted...but speeding up their metabolism would mean you would have to add a lot of other equipment to keep the water clean and oxygenated for these big, messy and oxygen demanding fish - like a vastly over rated external, and a spraybar splashing at the surface or a big airpump.

Hillstream loaches aren't suitable simply because they require different conditions to goldfish (better water conditions, faster water flow) and they don't compete well for food at all with them. They seldom last longer than a few months with goldfish.

Options for keeping with comets/shubs/commons would be Buenos Aires tetras and rosy barbs, as well as rosy red minnows.

If they are fantails of some sort, then the danios/tetras will be perfectly fine. Bigger Amano shrimp would be suitable too, as well as variatus platies (normal platys should be fine tbh, they are usually hybrids you find in stores).

Good to see your giving the goldfish more room, they are fun fish to keep if you like big eating/pooping machines . They will grow fast and you can always find them a garden pond in summer if you want to focus on other fish.

Thanks, that is really helpful info. My goldfish are both fantails. I love my two poo machines!

I would rather not put a heater in the tank, especially if it creates more work. The ambient water temperature is a steady 20 C so I would be looking at species suited at an unheated tank.

 

[MewMew42]

all of the fish i mentioned above will be fine at 22C and below

they can all tolerate a wide range of temperature

 

[Assaye]

Hi,

After a recent post on here I am planning to invest in a much larger tank. I have 2 goldfish squashed into a 25ltr tank. I plan on a 200 or 240ltr tank very soon. Can any of you suggest any other interesting creatures that I could put in the new tank that would happily live alongside my goldfish? I am open to all ideas, not just fish.

Try posting in the coldwater and ponds section

You could add another goldfish, lol, as long as it was a fancy type.

TBH, I'm not sure that adding too many other fish is a good idea. Goldfish are so messy and people have reported that other species don't tend to do all that well when kept with them.

The most I would try is a large shoal of white cloud mountain minnows. Don't be tempted to get danios as they're really nippy.

 

[fishyfeet]

To be honest id rehome the goldfish and get yourself a nice tank full of tropials, i used to have goldfish, then had some trops with goldfish, didnt really work apart from the bronze corys preferred the temperature but then corys go well with any fish, goldfish need more tankspace that trops they make more mess, find them a nice new home. di

 

[greengoddess]

Thanks again everyone. Rehousing the goldfish is simply not an option. They were Christmas presents that someone bought for my kids and they love them, and so do my wife and I. They'll definitely be going in the new big tank. A shoal of small fish would be quite cool. I like the sound of the white cloud mountain minnows but how many minnows are in a shoal? Do I buy 3 or do I buy 300?

 

[Assaye]

Thanks again everyone. Rehousing the goldfish is simply not an option. They were Christmas presents that someone bought for my kids and they love them, and so do my wife and I. They'll definitely be going in the new big tank. A shoal of small fish would be quite cool. I like the sound of the white cloud mountain minnows but how many minnows are in a shoal? Do I buy 3 or do I buy 300?

Shoals need to be at least 6, but in a large tank you could happily have 15 of them.

As I said before, goldfish are huge waste producers. They are also slow eaters (well, slow swimmers) and smaller fish tend to get to the food first. I would strongly consider limiting yourself to 2 or 3 goldfish and nothing else.

 

[kelly528]

I am assuming you have fancies here, otherwise you've got a problem on your hands

I have done extensive research as to what to stock my 50g/200L Fancy Goldfish Tank with and at the guideline of 80L for the first fancy and 40 for each additional fancy, your best option would probably be to add one more fancy. Goldfish like to hang out in groups of at least 3 so I'm sure the company will be well appreciated by them! That leave you with 40L left either as a margin for error OR you could pick up a Bristlenose Pleco. They only get about 5" long and are often the only species fancy enthusiasts recommend as tankmates. Unlike other species they are seldom territorial and will not latch onto the goldies and suck their slime coat.

Another option is an apple snail.

Just don't forget that for Fancy Goldfish you will need for your filter to be able to turn the tankwater over 10 times per hour, so for a 200L tank you need 1000 LPH worth of filtration. If you are using a filter that came with the tank you should be able to get the desired effect by adding another filter so that their total LPH equals 1000.