Stocking My New Tank

[hviviers75]

Good day all

Just wondering if my selection and quantity of fish will be overstocking my freshwater tank.

My tank details
Filters : 1 x Aquaclear 200 it does max 756litersper hour also have 1 x Resun 700L internet filter this equals to 1456l per hour that does 20 times my water volume per hour.

I read that you can overstock your tank a bit if you got decent over filtration.

I want to add the following fish to my tank.

5 x Neon Rainbows
4 x Rosey Danios
4 X Pearl Danios
4 X Rosey Barbs
4 x Gold Barbs
2 x Cherry Barbs
4 x Tetra Rio
3 x Bloodred Flame Tetras
2 x Cory
1 x Pleco

33 in Total

I have also been using Seachem Substrate to cycle my tank.

I am using the following media in my aquaclear 200
1 x Aquaclear sponge
1 x Aquclear Carbon
1 x Aquaclear Biomax.

I want to replace the carbon with Seachem Purigen as I heard that is the best stuff out there to replace your carbon media with.

I will also be doing 40 - 50 % water changes weekly as I heard the Neon rainbows need clear clean water.

Can I get some input regarding this thread of mine.

Using Seachem Prime for water changes.

Does anyone think it will be a good Idea to add Seachem Matrix to replace my Aquaclear biomax I heard and read that (capacity that exceeds all others by over 500%.)

I will not be removing my biomax will just be adding it to my filter and then later on I will remove the biomax.

I am on my first week of cycling next weekend I will be adding my first few fishes maybe 5 of them per weekend.

Your help and advise will be very helpful.

Cheers.

 

[the_lock_man]

That gives you about 70l? I think yes, even with the extra filtration, that's too many fish.

You don't say what species of Plec you're considering, so there is no way of advising - it's kinda like asking what the 0-60 time is of a "car" - do you mean Ferrari or Trabant?

With the exception of the Plec, all the other species are shoaling, and so need at least 6 in their group to feel comfortable, and so display their natural behaviour. The Danios also need long tanks, they come from fast-flowing streams and need (a) a lot of room to zzooooomm about in and (B) lower temperatures than the other species.

I would suggest forgetting the plec and the danios, and pic any 2 of the rainbows, tetras and barbs, plus whichever species of cory you want, and have 8-10 of each.

 

[crazyforcordoras]

It is too many fish. Like Lock Man said, the tetras and danios and cories like big groups. If you really want a pleco, a bristlenose pleco would be the best. Just warning you, dont get a clown pleco. They dont eat algae very much.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

If 1456lph gives your tank 20x turnover, we are talking about ~70l tank here...

Holy overstocking, Batman!

You are looking at 10-12 fish tops for this tank, that typically need to be <5cm as adults and very sedate, which rules out...

• The danios (Rosey and Pearl)
• The barbs (Rosey and Gold)
• The pleco (unless it is something like a Pitbull that needs a group of six, definitely not suitable for a BN)

Pretty much every fish on your list is a social fish, that needs a minimum of 6 in the group, so you need to choose 2 species from your current list that I have not highlighted above.

That is a lot of filtration in terms of water movement, real life figures will be at least 20% down on 1456lph, but that still means your fish need to be riverine fish that enjoy a strong current. Squashing fish into a tank will lead to claustrophobic stress which leads to disease, even if the filters can cope with the ammonia and nitrite, not to mention that as your stocking list matures the nitrate levels would be going through the roof (reaching toxic levels) without pretty much daily massive (>75%) water changes.

.. Time to go back to the drawing board, I feel.

My top choice for the filtration and tank size would be some carfeully chosen "hillstream loaches" or possibly a species only Dwarf Chain Loach community (depending upon the tank dimensions).

 

[crazyforcordoras]

Hillstream loaches are so cool!



Sorry, im not to good with liters. Is 70 about 20 US gallons?

 

[hviviers75]

That gives you about 70l? I think yes, even with the extra filtration, that's too many fish.

You don't say what species of Plec you're considering, so there is no way of advising - it's kinda like asking what the 0-60 time is of a "car" - do you mean Ferrari or Trabant?

With the exception of the Plec, all the other species are shoaling, and so need at least 6 in their group to feel comfortable, and so display their natural behaviour. The Danios also need long tanks, they come from fast-flowing streams and need (a) a lot of room to zzooooomm about in and (B) lower temperatures than the other species.

I would suggest forgetting the plec and the danios, and pic any 2 of the rainbows, tetras and barbs, plus whichever species of cory you want, and have 8-10 of each.

I dont understand you say any 2 rainbows tetras and barbs and cory and you say 8-10 of each

so does this mean 8 rainbows 8 tetras and 8 barbs plus 2 cory?

 

[the_lock_man]

That gives you about 70l? I think yes, even with the extra filtration, that's too many fish.

You don't say what species of Plec you're considering, so there is no way of advising - it's kinda like asking what the 0-60 time is of a "car" - do you mean Ferrari or Trabant?

With the exception of the Plec, all the other species are shoaling, and so need at least 6 in their group to feel comfortable, and so display their natural behaviour. The Danios also need long tanks, they come from fast-flowing streams and need (a) a lot of room to zzooooomm about in and (B) lower temperatures than the other species.

I would suggest forgetting the plec and the danios, and pic any 2 of the rainbows, tetras and barbs, plus whichever species of cory you want, and have 8-10 of each.

I dont understand you say any 2 rainbows tetras and barbs and cory and you say 8-10 of each

so does this mean 8 rainbows 8 tetras and 8 barbs plus 2 cory?

No

I'm saying pick a species of cory and have 8 of them. Plus 8 of each of any two of the remaining species on your list (excluding the danios and plec).

 

[hviviers75]

That gives you about 70l? I think yes, even with the extra filtration, that's too many fish.

You don't say what species of Plec you're considering, so there is no way of advising - it's kinda like asking what the 0-60 time is of a "car" - do you mean Ferrari or Trabant?

With the exception of the Plec, all the other species are shoaling, and so need at least 6 in their group to feel comfortable, and so display their natural behaviour. The Danios also need long tanks, they come from fast-flowing streams and need (a) a lot of room to zzooooomm about in and (B) lower temperatures than the other species.

I would suggest forgetting the plec and the danios, and pic any 2 of the rainbows, tetras and barbs, plus whichever species of cory you want, and have 8-10 of each.

I dont understand you say any 2 rainbows tetras and barbs and cory and you say 8-10 of each

so does this mean 8 rainbows 8 tetras and 8 barbs plus 2 cory?

No

I'm saying pick a species of cory and have 8 of them. Plus 8 of each of any two of the remaining species on your list (excluding the danios and plec).

Ok then 8 x cory 8 x neon rainbows and 8 Rio Tetras?

Sorry it is friday afternoon my mind does not think anymore

 

[the_lock_man]

That gives you about 70l? I think yes, even with the extra filtration, that's too many fish.

You don't say what species of Plec you're considering, so there is no way of advising - it's kinda like asking what the 0-60 time is of a "car" - do you mean Ferrari or Trabant?

With the exception of the Plec, all the other species are shoaling, and so need at least 6 in their group to feel comfortable, and so display their natural behaviour. The Danios also need long tanks, they come from fast-flowing streams and need (a) a lot of room to zzooooomm about in and (B) lower temperatures than the other species.

I would suggest forgetting the plec and the danios, and pic any 2 of the rainbows, tetras and barbs, plus whichever species of cory you want, and have 8-10 of each.

I dont understand you say any 2 rainbows tetras and barbs and cory and you say 8-10 of each

so does this mean 8 rainbows 8 tetras and 8 barbs plus 2 cory?

No

I'm saying pick a species of cory and have 8 of them. Plus 8 of each of any two of the remaining species on your list (excluding the danios and plec).

Ok then 8 x cory 8 x neon rainbows and 8 Rio Tetras?

Sorry it is friday afternoon my mind does not think anymore

Sounds a much better arrangement!

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

That gives you about 70l? I think yes, even with the extra filtration, that's too many fish.

You don't say what species of Plec you're considering, so there is no way of advising - it's kinda like asking what the 0-60 time is of a "car" - do you mean Ferrari or Trabant?

With the exception of the Plec, all the other species are shoaling, and so need at least 6 in their group to feel comfortable, and so display their natural behaviour. The Danios also need long tanks, they come from fast-flowing streams and need (a) a lot of room to zzooooomm about in and (B) lower temperatures than the other species.

I would suggest forgetting the plec and the danios, and pic any 2 of the rainbows, tetras and barbs, plus whichever species of cory you want, and have 8-10 of each.

I dont understand you say any 2 rainbows tetras and barbs and cory and you say 8-10 of each

so does this mean 8 rainbows 8 tetras and 8 barbs plus 2 cory?

No

I'm saying pick a species of cory and have 8 of them. Plus 8 of each of any two of the remaining species on your list (excluding the danios and plec).

Ok then 8 x cory 8 x neon rainbows and 8 Rio Tetras?

Sorry it is friday afternoon my mind does not think anymore

~120cm of adult fish in a 70l? That is obscene in my eyes, I would not want to stock more than ~50cm of fish in this tank, absolute tops.

hviviers75, please give us the dimensions of this tank... I'm expecting 80x30x30cm as best case scenario.

 

[hviviers75]

okay then how about 8 neon rainbows and 4 cory's I am sure this will be sufficient for my tank.

My tank is 60x45x50

60 long 45 width and 50 deep.

 

[crazyforcordoras]

You would need 6 cories.

 

[hviviers75]

Okay then guys last deal LOL,

I think I have decided to only have 8 neon rainbows and 6 cory do the cory have to be the same e.g 3 leopard cory and 3 panda cory or must it be 6 only of either leopard or panda?

 

[Justaerin]

6 pygmy corys 6-8 cherry barbs.

 

[the_lock_man]

Need to be same species.