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im thinking of starting a brackish tank, and i want to know what kind of fish i can get that will clean up

do cories tolerate salt? any loaches/catfish out there that will do the job?
 
There are multiple catfish well suited to slightly brackish water conditions, and at least 4, possibly 5, families include members fully adapted to saltwater conditions.

Anyway, of the traded species, the best "scavenger" is Hoplosternum littorale, a medium-sized relative of Corydoras. It is gregarious but boisterous, and does well up to SG 1.005, making it a good choice for use alongside low salinity species such as livebearers, sleeper gobies, etc. Some of the Corydoras from the coastal rivers of northeastern South America may tolerate slightly brackish conditions, but I've no idea which ones, and doubt they're traded: many of the species from that part of the continent are rather drab and unexciting.

Rather few loricariids are naturally found in brackish water, though a few are, notably various species of Hypostomus such as Hypostomus watwata. Although not commonly traded in the UK, true Hypostomus plecostomus will tolerate low-end brackish conditions (to SG 1.005) and do so, for example, in Florida. Do note that in most parts of the world the "common plec" is NOT this species, despite what older aquarium books might suggest. The common plec of the modern hobby is some species of Pterygoplichthys, and I'm not aware of these catfish being particularly tolerant of brackish water.

Various species of bagrid catfish occur in brackish water: Mystus cavasius, Mystus oculatus, Mystus vittatus, Mystus gulio, Mystus wolffii, Hemibagrus microphthalmus, Sperata seenghala, etc., etc. Of these Mystus vittatus is the one most often seen and small enough (at around 20 cm) to be considered a peaceful if predatory aquarium species. It tolerates slightly brackish (around SG 1.003) conditions well. Mystus gulio is less frequently seen but has a much higher tolerance for salt water, easily taking half-strength seawater (SG 1.010). It is rather big (15-30 cm, depending on the site of origin, likely multiple species) and distinctly predatory, though otherwise a peaceful schooling catfish.

Ariids of various types are traded, at least in the UK, including Arius sagor and Sciades seemanni. These are big predators and not "scavengers" at all. They're peaceful though, and work great kept as groups alongside scats, monos, etc. Adult plotosids will do well in brackish water, but alas, they're hardly traded these days. In the past at least one species, Plotosus lineatus, was fairly common as a saltwater fish. For whatever reason, it has virtually disappeared from the hobby.

The larger banjo catfish such as Aspredo and Platystacus spp are brackish water inhabitants, but they are exceedingly rare in the hobby. They're big (around 30 cm) though eel-like, and need very specific conditions to thrive, namely a sandy substrate and plenty of worm-type foods.

Many of the Pangasiidae occur in brackish water, and at least one species, Pangasius krempfi, swims into the sea. Be that as it may, the sheer size of these catfish makes them dubious additions to the home aquarium. The same holds for the Ictaluridae and Siluridae, some species of which occur in slightly brackish water but get too large to be easily kept in an aquarium.

No catfish "cleans up" your tank. If you think that way, you're doing your catfish a disservice, as well as deluding yourself about how to maintain an aquarium. True, catfish will eat uneaten fish food, but if you're feeding your fish properly, there shouldn't be any uneaten food! So take catfish for what they are, and give them appropriate food items at night. A mix of catfish pellets, chopped seafood and algae wafers usually works well for most species.

As for loaches, the vast majority live in upland habitats well away from the sea. There are some species that tolerate brackish water though. The horseface loach is the most widely traded and does well around SG 1.003, perhaps slightly higher. There are persistent rumours of clown loaches being found in brackish and even saltwater habitats, but I've not read anything in the scientific press to confirm that, and for now would recommend against keeping them in a brackish water system.

Cheers, Neale
 
I'm surprised that you left this out, neale, but as far as brackish "scavengers" go, snails and shrimp are definitely good options! I'm not particularly up to date on shrimp, unfortunately, but someone down in the Invertebrates Forum should know (presuming neale doesn't chime in). There are plenty of snails, including the very attractive tiger and olive nerites. Common Malaysian (or is it Madagascar?) Trumpet Snails are also ok for mildly brackish tanks and have the added benefit of being burrowers that will keep your substrate well turned-over. Given that snails will eat all sorts of refuse and scraps, I always recommend them to people looking for bottom scavengers.
 
Pica -- I agree 100% with what you've said! Most nerites tolerate brackish water well, and some (e.g., Clithon spp.) prefer brackish water. In saline conditions (i.e., above SG 1.010) you have to option of euryhaline saltwater invertebrates such as Virginia nerites and blue-legged hermit crabs, both widely sold in the marine hobby. A "freshwater" horseshoe crab Carcinoscorpius has been doing to rounds here in the UK; it doesn't live long in freshwater, but in brackish water conditions above SG 1.010 should do reasonably well given the right conditions, though horseshoe crabs generally are difficult to maintain if you treat them like scavengers.

Cheers, Neale
 
totally freshwater catfish do not do well in salt in burns them but brackish cat fish are ok :good:
The salt does not burn them. When will this forum stop repeating that ridiculous myth?

The salt causes problems with the fish's osmoregulatory system making it more difficult for it to maintain its desired internal salt balance.
 
Probably about the time "osmoregulatory system" becomes as easy to spell as "salt burns"!

It's human nature to go with an easy inaccuracy than a complex truth. Modern politics pretty much epitomises this: "war on terror", "just say No", "Islamic fundamentalism", "family values", "economic growth", "public-private partnership", "flexible labour market".

All of these are simplistic phrases that allow politicians to avoid explaining the nuances of complex situations, while allowing the electorate to avoid having to deal with multiple points of view that they might not even understand, let alone agree with.

In just the same way, (many) fishkeepers prefer to cling to this completely meaningless freshwater fish/saltwater fish dichotomy instead of seeing the whole thing as a spectrum, with each fish being tolerate of a range of salinities, narrow or broad, depending on their particular ecology.

Cheers, Neale

When will this forum stop repeating that ridiculous myth?
 
i do feed catfish pellets and algae pills anyway, i just want something that will also clean up the tank

do cherry shrimp survive well in brackish? i literally need something to clean up the bottom ( i would get food specificly for them aswell)
 
Most freshwater shrimps will be fine up to around SG 1.003 if you acclimate them carefully. This is ample if you're keeping low-end brackish species such as gobies or mollies. Amano shrimps may take a little more, being inhabitants of brackish water swamps as well as rivers. A few shrimps are true, broad salinity species, such as the red nose shrimp, Caridina gracilirostris.

Macrobrachium spp shrimps tend to tolerant brackish water well, but many species get too big to be trusted with small fish. They tend to be territorial towards one another, too.

Cheers, Neale
 

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