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Hi,

I have a 30L tank and have kept coldwater fish in it before, recently they have all died. I have cleaned the tank out and am going to buysome new gravel and decorations and start again. However I am not sure whether to go for coldwater fancies again, or get a heater and go tropical.

Now I know my tank is small so I will be very limited as to what I can keep, but I just wondered if anyone could give me some advise on what I could have if I did go tropical and the differences in cost and difficulty.

Here is a link to my fish tank.

http://www.seapets.co.uk/product-details/s...tegory/954.html

I like angel fish if i was to go tropical or are they a no go.

Any opinions welcome please. :)
 
With that size tank I would go for just a school (8 or so) of white cloud mountain minnows -gold or white ones.

They don't need a heater and have smaller bio load than even fancy goldfish poop machines.

They're really pretty too.
 
A 30L isn't beig enough for any goldfish. 1 goldfish requires 20g and each additional goldfish requires an extra 10g.

As regards to Angel fish they need 20g+

I'd go tropical :good:
 
Ok well I want something that will make the tank look full, Im not really keen on the smaller fish (white cloud mountain minnows and neons) unless they are with something else.

I have kept 2 goldfish in this tank before and they have been fine with regular water changes and a good filter.

I would like something colourful maybe a few guppies or mollies, and some neons? Or is this still too many?


Thanks for your replies :)
 
hi,
i have the same tank, i use it for a holding tank,
how about 4-5 platy, they are colourful, and 2 shrimp at the bottom,guppys are a good idea also,
go for tropical :good: ,all the best with what you decide to do.donna :) .
 
With that size tank I would go for just a school (8 or so) of white cloud mountain minnows -gold or white ones.

They don't need a heater and have smaller bio load than even fancy goldfish poop machines.

They're really pretty too.

A 30litre tank is too small for WCMM, 15gallons is usually the advised minimum amount of gallons for them as they are very active fish that come from fast flowing mountain streams.
 
hi,
i have the same tank, i use it for a holding tank,
how about 4-5 platy, they are colourful, and 2 shrimp at the bottom,guppys are a good idea also,
go for tropical :good: ,all the best with what you decide to do.donna :) .


What is a holding tank, do you mean quarantine/hospital?? Sorry if this is a sily question, but if you never ask you never learn!

Thanks in advance
 
Ok well I want something that will make the tank look full, Im not really keen on the smaller fish (white cloud mountain minnows and neons) unless they are with something else.

I have kept 2 goldfish in this tank before and they have been fine with regular water changes and a good filter.

I would like something colourful maybe a few guppies or mollies, and some neons? Or is this still too many?


Thanks for your replies :)

If you want big fish you will need a big tank.
Size though is not the only factor to take into consideration when stocking a tank, you will need to take many things into consideration including;

a. How active the fish are i.e. some fish which although are small, have high activity levels and need a large/long tank to meet their active lifestyle needs.
b. What their social requirements are i.e. are they shoaling fish, terotorial/agressive fish, do they need company etc?
c. What their environment/habitat requirements are i.e. does this fish need big open area's to swim in or does it need a heavily planted tank to feel secure in? Is this fish primarily nocturnal and thus needs lots of cover/caves, and what parts of the tank is it most likely to inhabit?
d. How mature is the tank/how long has it been set up i.e. some fish species are very fragile and need a stable tank to thrive in, while other types of fish are very hardy and can easily tolerate the unstable consitions that recently set up tanks often suffer?

etc...
There is also more to stocking new tanks than just stocking them with fish, do you know of cycling tanks? There are many ways to cycle tanks, some methods really don't work at all, while others are fantastic- the key is understanding how your water quality/ecsystem works i.e. nitrites, nitrates and ammonia.
Understanding your water quality is the best way to keeping fish healthy in the long run, and help make sure they live out their natural life expectancys.
Many people encounter New Tank Syndrome when setting up new tanks and lose many of their fish to this, you should really read up on this and Fishless cycling if you do not thoroughly know of these aspects of fish keeping already :nod: ;

New tank syndrome (avoiding and treating);

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=10099

Fishless cyling;

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=73365

:good: .
There is also a wealth of info in the pinned articles at the top of this section which may be of much use to you :thumbs: .

As to the mollys, these grow to big and active for a 30litre, and a 30litre does not offer enough shoaling space for neons, however it may be suffient for a trio of 3 female guppys although i personally do not feel it offers enough space and would prefer to advise at least a 10gal minimum for these fish.


I like angel fish if i was to go tropical or are they a no go.

Any opinions welcome please. :)

No unfortunately a 30litre is too small for angels. I believe there was an done article recently on fish species/types suitable for tanks of around 5gals, i will see if i can find it for you :) .
 

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