Snail control

LEricG

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Hi. I have a planted, 15-litre tank with Cherry shrimps (I bought 5 but only have 2 left) and one Zebra nerite. Unfortunately, with the plants, I also imported some snails, which, of course, have exploded. I have been told that an Assassin snail would harm the Nerite, but Copilate says that the Assassin would not harm either the shrimp or the Nerite.

What do you guys on here think?

Does anyone have any personal experience of this?

Thanks in advance for any input.

I don't know what kind of snails they are, but I will try to attach a photo. Excuse the blurred image. There is nothing in the photo to indicate scale, but it is very small.
 

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The scourge of pond snails. Assassins are good, but aquarists are more deadly and can control them better. Once they get going, all that really works here is picking them off, one by one by one. Mine are well under control now, but it took time.
 
The scourge of pond snails. Assassins are good, but aquarists are more deadly and can control them better. Once they get going, all that really works here is picking them off, one by one by one. Mine are well under control now, but it took time.
Thanks, Gary. I guess I can try that, but there are so many, and many of them so small, they are not easy to see, let alone pick out.
 
Does anybody know a way to kill them off when preparing plants before putting them in the tank? Maybe a bleach wash or something similar? I was given some Wisteria cuttings and took a long time examining each leaf for eggs, and removed what I could find, while clipping off leaves that were spotty or had been munched on. I still catch and squash any strays if I see them, and so far it hasn't gotten bad. It would be great if there was an alternative, though. Thank you.
 
I do both shrimp and assassin snails in thanks,, The snails do not bother the shrimp at all. I sell both at my fish clubs auctions as well as the yearly January public auction.

IO started with about very few assassins. I have sold 100s. They will eradicate the pest snails and then the assassins will multiply. But try to collect and sell the pond snails v.s. assassins and you will quickly see their differing values.

There are other ways to eradicate pest snails using fish which will eat them. But One should not buy fish they do not really want to have save for the fact they eat snails. A number of loaches will eat snails. i have two such species which have elimminate the snails in their tanks but have done so in different ways. I have kept clown loaches for 23 years now and have a couple tat are c 12 inches. Loaches tend to suck the snail out of its shell to eat it. The problem was mu clowns got so nig I was afarid they would suck in the snail and i shel all together and snail shells are sharp expecially if the shell brakes. But. while the clowns were small they eradicated the adult snails.

The other loach I have kept almosy as long as the clowns are the sidthimunikis. Thse are one ot the smallest loaches there are. They cannot eat larger snails, but they can decimate the smaller ones, I have no pest snails in any tank with sids.

So there were two different strategies both of which eradicated all the snails. The clowns ate the ones which could reproduce and th sids aye the small offspring so they never made it to adulthood where they could reproduce. However, I had 20 tanks and only two held loaches. So, assassins were the next option. The fact that they are easy to sell made having them easier.

I had a lot of tanks dedicated to breeding plecos. I could not be sure that assassins would not eat wither eggs, wigglers or small fry, so I would not use the snails in those tanks. However, I had grow tanks with the pleco pffspring which got fed more than other tanks. This envouraged snails. So, I found myself harvesting the snails ing the grow tanks and dumping them into the tanks with the assassins.

Before the clowns got too large I would also dump snails I harvested into their tank and did similat with the sids. But for them I added way fewer snails. I have just order some snail Ebo Aquaristik snail food for the assassins, I have been downsizing ank numbers and now have only one pleco species left and I have two grow tanks only. In the not too distant future I will be outing the plecos as well. Old aage has made it hard to keep up with lots off tanks and having breeding fish and offspring.

I could not disagree more with GaryE when he says we can control pest snails better than assassins. Rge problem is one the pests are gone the assassins remain. Newborn assassins head into the substrate where they can grow without becoming food. The bigger ones also like to god underground as well. When I need to catch a bunch to sell and they are mostly buried at the time, I use one of the telescoping back scratchers which have a mni-rake on the end. Something like this. It works well to extract the snails hiding in the substrate.
shopping
 
Hello. I've found snails extremely helpful. They're second to none in helping keep the tank clean. About the only thing they won't consume is waste material from the fish. They're a very good indicator of how much you're feeding. Too many snails and you need to reduce the amount you feed. If the population dies back, you can safely increase the amount you feed. In the past, I've used the old "wooden spoon" method of getting rid of them. I simply use the spoon to crush the shells and the resident fish do the clean up. Snail meat is a favorite with fish.

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Hello. I've found snails extremely helpful. They're second to none in helping keep the tank clean. About the only thing they won't consume is waste material from the fish. They're a very good indicator of how much you're feeding. Too many snails and you need to reduce the amount you feed. If the population dies back, you can safely increase the amount you feed. In the past, I've used the old "wooden spoon" method of getting rid of them. I simply use the spoon to crush the shells and the resident fish do the clean up. Snail meat is a favorite with fish.
I found the same, too many snails and you are overfeeding, I have found that I do occasionally get a snail that dies, actually lots do, but they have never fouled the water. The biggest improvement I see with snails is I don't seem to get any cyanobacteria outbreaks. I tried for a couple of years to keep snails out of my main display tank but since giving up on that the tanks seems to have fewer issues overall.
 
I do both shrimp and assassin snails in thanks,, The snails do not bother the shrimp at all. I sell both at my fish clubs auctions as well as the yearly January public auction.

IO started with about very few assassins. I have sold 100s. They will eradicate the pest snails and then the assassins will multiply. But try to collect and sell the pond snails v.s. assassins and you will quickly see their differing values.

There are other ways to eradicate pest snails using fish which will eat them. But One should not buy fish they do not really want to have save for the fact they eat snails. A number of loaches will eat snails. i have two such species which have elimminate the snails in their tanks but have done so in different ways. I have kept clown loaches for 23 years now and have a couple tat are c 12 inches. Loaches tend to suck the snail out of its shell to eat it. The problem was mu clowns got so nig I was afarid they would suck in the snail and i shel all together and snail shells are sharp expecially if the shell brakes. But. while the clowns were small they eradicated the adult snails.

The other loach I have kept almosy as long as the clowns are the sidthimunikis. Thse are one ot the smallest loaches there are. They cannot eat larger snails, but they can decimate the smaller ones, I have no pest snails in any tank with sids.

So there were two different strategies both of which eradicated all the snails. The clowns ate the ones which could reproduce and th sids aye the small offspring so they never made it to adulthood where they could reproduce. However, I had 20 tanks and only two held loaches. So, assassins were the next option. The fact that they are easy to sell made having them easier.

I had a lot of tanks dedicated to breeding plecos. I could not be sure that assassins would not eat wither eggs, wigglers or small fry, so I would not use the snails in those tanks. However, I had grow tanks with the pleco pffspring which got fed more than other tanks. This envouraged snails. So, I found myself harvesting the snails ing the grow tanks and dumping them into the tanks with the assassins.

Before the clowns got too large I would also dump snails I harvested into their tank and did similat with the sids. But for them I added way fewer snails. I have just order some snail Ebo Aquaristik snail food for the assassins, I have been downsizing ank numbers and now have only one pleco species left and I have two grow tanks only. In the not too distant future I will be outing the plecos as well. Old aage has made it hard to keep up with lots off tanks and having breeding fish and offspring.

I could not disagree more with GaryE when he says we can control pest snails better than assassins. Rge problem is one the pests are gone the assassins remain. Newborn assassins head into the substrate where they can grow without becoming food. The bigger ones also like to god underground as well. When I need to catch a bunch to sell and they are mostly buried at the time, I use one of the telescoping back scratchers which have a mni-rake on the end. Something like this. It works well to extract the snails hiding in the substrate.
shopping
I can't use clown loaches in this tank - it is only 15 litres - too small for fish.
 
They're a very good indicator of how much you're feeding.
It is only a 15-litre tank with 2 shrimp, so I hardly put any food in. I have twice put a shrimp stick in for about 24 hours - no other food, as there is enough for them, diatoms, etc. The snails came in with the plants.
 
It is only a 15-litre tank with 2 shrimp, so I hardly put any food in. I have twice put a shrimp stick in for about 24 hours - no other food, as there is enough for them, diatoms, etc. The snails came in with the plants.
Any decaying plant matter in the tank? They can only breed with a food source, or eventually they will die out. All my tanks have some species of "pest" snails. When the numbers get too much, I add an alage wafer, wait a few hours, and abduct them like aliens in a UFO. They get chucked in the pond for any wildlife to enjoy :)
 
Does anybody know a way to kill them off when preparing plants before putting them in the tank?
I have some Christmas moss in this tank that needs trimming, and I want to put some into my other tank, but don't want to import the snails, so what I am going to try is give it a good rinse under the tap to get rid of as many as possible, then I will put the moss into a container with a good dose of snail killer, before putting it into the other tank.
 
Hi Eric,

What you have in your tank are pond snails, common pests found across NA (I don't know but probably everywhere else too 🤣).

There are many methods to get rid of snails even though they are up there in terms of "annoying aquarium residents that everyone hates." For me the #1 spot is held by duckweed which is practically impossible to fully eradicate. That is besides the point.

Here are some methods, though other people listed these before me on this forum:
  • Spoon method - crush them with your spoon and let the fish eat the meat. Unless you added fish to your tank, this is invalid as neocaridina are mostly herbivores/decomposers.
  • Pea puffers - If you wanted and the conditions are right, they are great pets and eat snails as a part of their primary diet.
  • Algae wafer abduction - Throw in an algae wafer, wait, and abduct all the snails on the wafer. Repeat this process to reduce snail population.
  • BEST METHOD, assassin snails - Don't listen to the AI which says they wouldn't harm the nerite, they will. Nerites are inexpensive, and you can get a number of them for a low cost at your LFS. Buy 2 or 3 assassins, they won't kill the shrimp unless the shrimp have recently molted or are young (or sick). When you are done with the assassins you can either let them die or take them out when you see them. They most likely won't breed, but in the case you are concerned about breeding, get only 1.
 
@LEricG
Apologies- I meant to write that one should not buy fish just to eradicate snails.

Species should be bought for the long term keeping and not because they are doing a clean-up. What happens often is when we do get one fish to solve a problem or even when we get assassins to eat snails, the solution often becomes a new problem. Clowns will get big. Assassins will reproduce and will do so. They do not eat only snails. So, when they eliminate the pests, they will switch to eating other food. They will likely become a new problem except that we can sell them easily. They are in demand. The pic below is the result of dropping a number of Hikari Algae wafers into the tank.
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I did not get either my clowns or sidthimunkis for snail control. I got them to be long term residents in my tanks and I still have them today many years later.

I got angels to help control runaway bristlenose fry. But a couple of angels paired and spawned. They laid close to 500 eggs when they spawned and I was soon dealing with hundreds of angel fry. Ultimately, all of the angels, young and old,, all went to new homes. Oh yes, angels may spawn every 2 weeks.
 
I got angels to help control runaway bristlenose fry. But a couple of angels paired and spawned. They laid close to 500 eggs when they spawned and I was soon dealing with hundreds of angel fry. Ultimately, all of the angels, young and old,, all went to new homes. Oh yes, angels may spawn every 2 weeks.
It makes me think of all the times humans introduced a species into an environment to solve a problem, just to create many more.

You are absolutely right that introducing something creates other problems, and can have consequences. There are solutions to his problem that do not involve more fauna, but it is an efficient solution.
 

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