Selling fish...Getting fish

[bshockstubb]

Well Im on break right now and I know all you brits are off work right now, so heres whats going on:
Tomorrow Im selling my parrots and some of my mollies for store credit. I was wondering what I can put in my 55.

Heres a list of fish I have (without the parrots):

3 Pearl Danios
2 M. Dwarf Gouramis
4 Coryoras aenus
3 Spotted Corys
1 Albino Chocolate Pleco

Heres what I what in the tank:

Either a Ram or someother Apisto
Maybe AngelFish?
More Danios(pearls,maybe zebra and WCMM)
Some Rainbowfish(maybe Boesemani, Red Irian, Dwarf Neon)
Maybe more Gouramis(maybe Blue, Gold, Opaline, Dwarf)
Barbs(Maybe Cherry, Tiger, Rosy)
Tetra(Rummynose,Neon,bleeding heart, almost any)
maybe a RTBS or someother less aggresive oddball(Black Ghost Knifefish, Elephant Nose)

Remember this is just an idea...I dont want ALL these fish(i would but I dont have the room or the money) just a selection of fish i want.

So if someone could help me and reply fast It would gladly be appreciated! If you see a fish that would do good in there and isnt on my list, go ahead and say what it is!

 

[hill_billy0143]

i think you should put.. A WHOLE CRAP LOAD OF NOTHIN IN THERE>!!!!~!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[bshockstubb]

Yes, thankyou

how about the rest of you? really, what should I put in there?

 

[hill_billy0143]

whats up"?

 

[bshockstubb]

okay.....umm, well please if anyone else would like to help me PlEASE go ahead and do so.

 

[sylvia]

When it comes to the fish you want - I'll tell you which ones I think you SHOULDN'T get and you can decide what you want

First I wan't to point out that 'chocolate' plecos are just albino commons so you'll have a huge fish on your hands sooner or later. Anyway...

A dwarf cichlid COULD work but only go for the more peaceful ones (like german blue rams) as the corydoras and pleco will be competing on territory.

Don't get WCMM unless you'll be buying at least 5 for them to shoal. Unlike the zebras or more pearls (both of which I would reccomend), they aren't realy danios and won't school with your current pearls.

Blue, gold and opaline gouramies are all trichogaster trichopterus - three spot gouramies. These fish are aggressive and are not a good choice if you already own gouramies - which you do. If you want a large gourami go for pearls or moonlights. Other options are thick-lipped (colisa labiosa), giant/striped/banded/indian (colisa fasciata), more dwarfs like you said, croaking or honeys.

If you go for rosy barbs keep them inan adequate shoal or they'll nip the feelers off your gouramies.

Don't get tigers as they will nip the feelers of your dwarfs.

Most tetras would be ok but avoid buenos aires and black widow as they've been known to nip and your dwarfs will suffer. I reccomend black phantoms (attractive displays and rapid color changes).

Don't get an RTBS if you get any more bottom-dwelling fish such as the cichlids as they will compete on territory. I'd also urge you to not go for RTBS either way as they get very aggressive as adults. You could manage it but it might be stressful to your other fish. Red-fin or rainbow sharks are more peaceful. Better still would be a few flying foxes.

I don't know about the ghost knife - it would likely eat any small fish.

Deffinately re-consider the elephant nose completely - they are very complicated fish to keep and very fragile. You need to do a lot more research on these fish before even thinking about keeping one.

Hope that narrows it down

 

[bshockstubb]

thankyou very much sylvia!!!!

I sorta figured this out about the plec, but I have kept many commons in the past and I will have room for him in years to come. Im glad the rams will work and don't worry I am gonna special order some pearls soon. Im not sure about zebras though, maybe because they were eaten before(either by the parrots, BW Tetra(who later died) or even the pearls). My dwarfs are aggresive already to each other, do you think i should get some more(which sex.) I'll have to check into the croaking or honeys. I'll maybe look into rosy barbs. thats good that tetra will do good(I had Black Widow tetra who i think ate or niped my zebra danios/guppies to death. Okay, no RTBS....again, i will have to check with the LFS about flying foxes, and my choices for oddballs are out.
thanks again!

 

[bshockstubb]

Okay so how about this:

2 X German Blue Rams and/or AngelFish
3-10 X Pearl and Zebra Danios(maybe)
---Still donno about the gouramis---(maybe 2-4)
4-6 X Tetra or Rainbowfish
1 X Albino Common Plec
4 X Corydoras Aenus(albino...bronze)
3 X Spotted Corys(might pick up another at LFS)

how does that sound...I want to know if angelfish will be okay in there and everything else too. Ideas? Subtractions? Additions? Anything?

 

[sylvia]

Dwarf gouramies tend to be aggressive towards each other but not other species so consider one of the other gouramies if you don't want to risk it. However, I think 1-2 more males or 3-4 more females would work as well. If you encounter problems you could always return the fish.

Your list looks ok compatibility-wise. You'll be over-stocked as the pleco gets bigger but you said you're going to move it out anyway so that should be fine.

If you want an angelfish as well you can do that but I'd get about 7 danios only and don't get any small tetras. Anything larger than about 1.5" would be fine. Fish with a body shape that is not like a neon's (take black phantoms, black widows, beacon fish etc) are also generaly ok with angels as they won't get eaten as readily as small neon-type tetras would. I'd stick to just one angel as if you end up with a pair they will become aggressive.
You can still have rams as they occupy different water levels (noticed you have rams 'and/or' angels so it can be 'and' ) and you won't be over-stocked.

 

[bshockstubb]

My LFS dosent usally stock rams but they do have alot of angels. Would the angels gobble the danios or will they be fine? but tomorrow ill ask if they special order and if they do Ill get some pearls and some rams and if they dont ill get some of my other fish...sound good(agian anyone want to add/sub. anything...feel free to do so)

 

[sylvia]

I doubt the angel would go after your danios. I've never heard of this happening and it certainly hasn't happened to me so I would think they'd be fine.

 

[fishman 1]

Hello all,

I must say I agree with sylvia on her selections.
I would not entertain even a rainbow / red finned shark as through experience these can be almost as agressive as the red tailed sharks.
With regards to the albino plec I would get rid via the local fish shop if they will take it off you. It will end up too big and will probably distroy any aquascaping you do to make your tank look nice. If you are after an algae eater the ancistrus temminckii (bristlenose) are a viable choice and only gets to around 5" (120mm). I suspect the flying foxes to help out a bit with algae too. Both of these species also like cucumber too or algae flakes if you want to spend a bit more.
I also recommend only one angel. The two I had in my 6'x2'x18" terrorised the tank when they spawned so be warned. Two females can be just as bad.
Have you seen any of the new types of danios on the market in the UK? Or have you had them a while in the US? I will have a think of the names to remember them and will post them on here. One goes as "goldring danio". I cannot look them up as they are not in any of my books. At my age the memory is starting to go.

 

[bshockstubb]

Well the plec will have to do for now, he is only 3 inches now and I have kept a 18" common for 12 years. i know how to handle big plecs and big fish. But for now I want some medium to small fish. My LFs is very selective on fish and rarley have some of these rarer fish. The pearls were inb the feeder box and tomorrow i will ask if they will order more and possbly rams

 

[bshockstubb]

So I think angelfish are out of the question
How about this:

2 X German Blue Rams(possibly)
3-10 X Pearl and Zebra Danios(maybe)
2 X dwarf gouramis(maybe some more gouramis)
2-4 X Bosemani Ranbowfish(or neon dwarf)
2-4 X Larger tetra
1 X Albino Common Plec
4 X Corydoras Aenus(albino...bronze)
3 X Spotted Corys(might pick up another at LFS)

So my question now is what other gouramis can I get and what tetra can i get if I dont get an angel. Dang, I like angels too, oh well>

 

[Inchworm]

Hi bshockstubb

I'd like to suggest that if you already have a couple of gouramis, that you don't get more. They can be quite territorial and even a 55 gallon can be too small for more than one or two males.

For tetras, I have always liked Glowlight tetras and recommend them to you. You would need a school of them, but they are somewhat small, nicely colored, and are also very peaceful.

http/www.brooklands.co.nz/tropical/glowlight.htm

I have had good luck with blind cave tetras too, and if you can find them, why not give them a try? They are unusual, since they have no eyes, but they are peaceful and get along fine.

http/www.aquariumfish.com/aquariumfish/B...d=6237&cid=3680

Corys are always good and never cause any problems, so get as many of them as will fit to fill out the tank. Any kind is good, providing they like the temperature you will be keeping your tank. For example, C. aeneus like water that is cooler than C. sterbai prefer.