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BRANDX

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This is just a story about some recent excitement in a relatively boring tank...
My 15g has a Small Firemouth (2 1/2 in.), One Giant Danio, and three feeder Minnows that were never eaten and are now almost serious pet fish! Well, the 15g sits beside the TV. One night the largest of the Minnows who has a black spot on his face (he is almost the size of the danio 2 or 2 1/4 inches) gets in a fight with the danio!! :shout:

They are just going around and around taking turns biting at each other in the side. Neither of them have a big enough mouth to do any real damage, but neither of them knew that! I mean the constant intense swirling around each other at an amazing speed, like a tornado. These two are completely oblivious to everything around them. They are knocking other minnows out of the way, and only stopped to readjust their spinning course when they hit the Firemouth! :angry:

Now, my firemouth is far from aggressive with these other fish but he would put a mouth around a fin if he's provoked. The minnow and danio bounced their marry-go-round fight back to an open part of the tank. And I mean to tell you I was just like a big boxing match you could begin to tell at about ten minutes that they were both very tired. Taking water breaks and catching their breath and you could tell that the favored fish here to win would be the danio. They even have a rep for being fin nippers. But, just when he would try a little bit of a victory strut across the tank, that minnow would fly out and ram him. That minnow would not quit!! Keep in mind their is still no signs of physical damage to either fish, this is a pure bully-on-the-playground scrap. :grr:

I have now gone and gotten my wife and gone next door and brought my neighbor back to witness this craziness. :crazy:

The minnow was visibly losing ground at about 12-13 minutes. The danio would start pushing the minnow sideways every other hit or so, the minnow would start to roll a bit on its side from the blow, but would somehow find the strength to come back and bite that danio's tail! Then the minnow would dish some blows of his own, and he's no slouch!!!

At fifteen minutes the danio is now hoping that the minnow will give up. NO such luck. The speed of the fight has slowed down a lot, they each take a second to go to a corner and come back, touch gloves and tornado at each other for another round.

They finally both swam opposite directions and moped around on separate sides of the tank for a few minutes :blush: and now when they pass by each other their is an obvious show of respect from both of them for each other...like, that was not fun and I don't ever want to have to try that with you again!

Just thought some of you might like to hear about a fish conflict that didn't have to result in a death or a removal, even kind of inspiring that my little feeder fish is all grown up and holding his ground!

Ciao,

Brand
 
Interesting.. I would say get more danios, as they like to school.. but 15g isn't really big enough for danios in the first place :crazy:
 
Danio's are going to get into conflicts if kept on their own in too small a tank, it's in their nature. No it's not big enough for the firemouth. I don't see why you didn't just put you hand in the tank it normally stop fish fighting and if it didn't you should of split them up, so what if they were feeders, they are a bad kind of feeder anyway. Also was pretty pointless posting this is NW cichlids when it had little to nothing about them.
 
hehe sounds like a fun battle to watch. I've never seen a fish "fight" that lasted more than 5 seconds. as long as no one died in the fight.

jayjay there WAS a firemouth in the tank even if he was too good to fight the little ones
 
Realistically the only fish that should be kept in there are the minnows..

Firemouths need a much larger tank, and danios need lots of swimming room as well...

I see they have other larger tanks, so I'm only assuming the firemouth will be moved at some point in time...
 
True Vancouver, Firemouth needs to go up to the 75g. I have been hesitant because their is a convict over their that is twice his size...oh, it is inevitable. He needs to go and the danio does too.

No offense meant JayJay. It's just that this is the forum I spend all my time in. I don't really even know much about what other forum to post something about a minnow!!? I didn't stick my hand in because, like I said...no damage, it was a grudge match, not a murder. My convict and JD used to get into jawlocking tug-o-wars and now they get along fine. You remember all of that, you were around from my 10g. If I thought this was a harmful story I wouldn't have posted it. Its just a spice piece about something amazing in my tank. And look at the great advice I am still getting about the firemouth. time to move him, I guess. Then see what happens.

Ciao,

Brand
 
hehe sounds like a fun battle to watch. I've never seen a fish "fight" that lasted more than 5 seconds. as long as no one died in the fight.

jayjay there WAS a firemouth in the tank even if he was too good to fight the little ones

my little blood parrot always chalenges my oscar and GT even though there about 5" bigger she always wins, nasty piece of work lol
 
Didn't anyone warn you when you were a newbie not to post about feeders or tanksizes? There are a few here who will totally ignore what your post was about and dive immediately into making demands for re-homing your fish! :lol:

SLC
 
ok whatever just help the poor guy out. stop bringing down the way he asks for help and help him out. the wuestions you mentioned up there, yes some people will ignore you for that, but whats the point in having an online comunity of fishkeepers helping eachover if youre going to be ignored?
 
You contradicted yourself in that last post kubora..

The point of this forum is to help each other correct.. so if someone is keeping their fish in less then ideal conditions, wouldn't it be helpful to tell them? So many times the LFS will tell someone something that is totally untrue, and they will have no idea their tank isn't ideal for their fish.
 
Hey, hey :-( Don't get all ruffled on my account everybody! I have good news, I moved my Firemouth over to my 75g and he's doing fine. The other Danio is probably going 75g too, maybe this week. So, I am going to have another post on some "suggestions," suggestions on what some of you have done with your smaller tanks or can that even be addressed in the New World forum?

I know the importance of swapping information, especially based on everybody's personal experiences that is a great point for the forum. But, just like people who talk about their kids, or dogs or cars...the "you'll-never-guess-what-happened-to-me" info swapping is not to be completely discounted. Sure if somebody runs a stop sign and gets in to an accident, everyone who hears about it can say it never would have happened if you'd stopped at the sign, but others may want to know-did anyone get hurt? Are you OK? Is the car bad off? How did you manage to do something stupid like run a stop sign?...etc.

:sly: I want to hear the New World peoples comments because I have something in common with you and I like to hear your take on the stuff. Just like if I'm a dog person and I see two cats get into a fight in my front yard...I am not going to try to go find a cat person to tell about it; I am going to tell my dog people friends. Their view match some of my own, I can easily identify where they are coming from....You all get the picture.

Besides, don't worry :crazy: I am not going to clog the NW forum with a bunch of minnow threads.

Thanks, everybody and if I hadn't posted this thread I still would have a poor firemouth sitting in that 15g! :)
 

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