Rid Ich Herbal Medication?

[Cookielici0us]

Is it okay to use on my tank with octocinclus and my ADF?

 

[WILDER]

I would only half dose with having catfish,

ADF African Dwarf Frog.

I would move the frog to a isolation tank.

Here is a link to the medication,
http/www.novalek.com/kordon/ridich/index.htm

 

[Cookielici0us]

Alright Well... out goes the frog and in goes the medicine

 

[WILDER]

Half dose only with having the catfish.,

Good Luck.

 

[Cookielici0us]

well then i'd rather keep it in the quarantine tank with my frog D:

just to be safe and all ._.;; because i've had them in a quarantine tank with the frog for awhile now and i dumped a lot of the medicine in my main tank because a few of my fishes are covered in ich and i am very afraid for their well-being...and a lot being enough where the water is tea colored

Well not like BLACK tea colored but like GREEN tea colored

I am actually afraid now ._.;;

oh wait thats not the right medication im using the herbal one its green
http/www.novalek.com/kordon/ich_attack/index.htm

this one D:

 

[WILDER]

Ich medications can turn the water green, or blue.



If you do move the catfish just make sure there no white spots on him.

 

[WILDER]

Every time I do a search on the medication it just keeps fetching the one I left a link too.

Do a search to see if you can find the medication you are using.

 

[Cookielici0us]

I just sent a link o_o;;

http/www.novalek.com/kordon/ich_attack/index.htm

o_o;; that one

 

[Cookielici0us]

its the 100% organic!

100% Organic Herbals Based On Naphthoquinones For Fresh and Saltwater Aquarium and Pond Conditions
Helps Prevent And Treat Single-Celled External Fish Diseases Caused By White Spot Disease (Ich), Other Protozoans, Dinoflagellates, and Fungus
Equally Effective In Fresh And Salt Water
Does Not Require Water Changes Between Treatments
Safe For Use With Aquatic Invertebrates (Snails, Shrimp, Crabs, Coral, Anemones, etc.)
Made in U.S.A.

Wait maybe I should give some background... I've had my octos and my frog in a separate tank because from experience octos don't do well with rid ich(the link you sent me) and have been half dosing the main tank because of the loaches but I bought the herbal formula just a few days ago and did a 25% water change and vacuumed the gravel and double the doses of the herbal one, since it said it was okay for loaches...and that i could double the dosage if the ich was severe and on a few fishes, yes they're covered in ich and half dosing the original formula wasn't doing much good onto my fishes...so far I've only had one causality...and it was because my fish decided to hop out... Maybe its a better idea to just keep the octos in the seperate tank... but I'm not sure if they have ich on them... so just to be sure if the herbal medication is alright so if i put them in the main tank to get treated that they will be alright.

serves as an effective external treatment of protozoans, dinoflagellates, and fungi.

The efficacy and length of treatments are the same for all three organic herbal naphthoquinone treatments. These three products come in two varieties, Aquarium and Pond.

All three Kordon organic herbal treatments have two important uses -- elimination of single-celled infections, and prevention of single-celled infections from developing. Since a sizable number of fish infections are single celled, any one of these three treatments can be used when the disease is not identified and a treatment is needed in the hope that it will be effective. Also, any one these treatments can be used as a preventative, suppressing single-celled infections and allowing the immune system of the fishes to be effective in preventing the infections from developing.

A helpful advantage of these three organic herbals is that water changes are not necessary between daily treatments, saving on having to use tap water and their conditioners each day, or for marine aquariums in having to replace saltwater each day. The naphthoquinone ingredients of these organic herbals are as effective in salt water as in fresh water, providing an entirely new and effective way to handle coral reef aquariums without having to remove the marine invertebrates during treatments.

Kordon Ich-Attack™ is an easy to use treatment composed of 100% multiple organic ingredients for all types of external and epidermal single-celled infections. It's broad spectrum of activity and lack of toxicity makes Ich-Attack effective without requiring a specific diagnosis.
It stops infectious and external parasitic invasions from getting started and in turn prevents many secondary infections. In short, Ich-Attack suppresses and eliminates a wide spectrum of infections.

Ich-Attack is effective against protozoan parasites on fishes and aquatic invertebrates, whether fresh or brackish water, or marine. These comprise dozens of genera and species of fish-infecting species in fresh and salt water, each kind with distinctive characteristics in their infections. The groups include "white spot disease" and other ciliates (Ichthyophthirius in fresh water, and Cryptocaryon, Brooklynella, Trichodina in marine), and "sporozoan parasites" (for which many infectors of aquarium fish are marine).

Dinoflagellate infections treated by Ich-Attack are photosynthetic single-celled organisms which include Oodinium (velvet disease), Amyloodinium (coral fish disease), Tetrahymena, as well as other infectious dinoflagellates.

Ich-Attack works well against fungi which are very important pathogens of fishes and their eggs. These fungi include for fresh water the species of Saprolegnia, Achlya, Leptomitus, Pythium, and for marine Exophiala, Ichthyophonus, Ich-Attack is especially suitable for tropical marine aquariums containing aquatic invertebrates, because it also treats their fungal infections, while not adversely affecting coral reef animals, including corals, anemones, starfish, snails, crabs, and shrimp.

The herbals used in Ich-Attack have been selected because they have been shown to have a powerful effect against aquatic diseases, yet are far more forgiving on the animals than harsh chemicals. What Kordon has created , led by Dr. Michael Tierra - a well known herbalist whose books on natural botanical treatments are widely read - is to determine carefully which herbals can be used together to cover a wide spectrum of external fungal and other aquatic diseases. The result is completely unique, very effective, and truly easy to use.

Fungus is one of the most common infections in aquarium fishes. Fungus is recognized externally mainly as a growth on the head, body, or fins that looks like cotton or tufts, often being whitish, but also may be yellowish, gray, brown, or another color. These growths are technically called hyphae. Fungus also can be slimy on surfaces, called water molds. All of these fungal infections are technically called Oomycete infections. Fungus can also be internal lesions or granulomas appearing in fishes, including in marine tropical fishes on infected organs as raised, white to yellow nodules or patches.

SPECIFICATIONS
Kordon Ich-Attack contains 5% active ingredients consisting of five natural organic herbals, based on their containing patented naphthoquinones. Totally free of chemicals (such as formalin and malachite) and all heavy metals, including zinc and copper. Does not affect pH of the water, or its oxygen content. Compatible with all Kordon water conditioners (NovAquas, Amquels, Fish Protector, PolyAqua, EZ4U tablets, Betta Tabs, Goldfish Tabs, VitaTrace, PhosRid).

MODE OF ACTION
The therapeutic action of Ich-Attack on protozoan and other infections is due to its binding with cytoplasmic structures within the cell of the infecting organisms.


DIRECTIONS FOR USE
Kordon Ich-Attack is effective:

as a treatment for external diseases, abrasions and wounds caused by protozoans, fungi, and dinoflagellates. Often there is a combination of these infections, for which Ich-Attack is a suitable treatment for all of them.
as a disease preventative for stressed fish, such as for those in quarantine
as a disease inhibitor when netting, handling or adding new fishes, amphibians, and aquatic reptiles such as turtles


Use In Fresh, Brackish or Salt Water: Shake bottle well before each use. It is recommended to remove any activated carbon from filters so that the carbon does not reduce effectiveness of the treatment. Ich-Attack does not interfere with the use of protein skimmers or UV ultraviolet sterilizers. However, protein skimmers remove herbal organics from the water. It is best to discontinue the use of protein skimmers during treatments with Ich-Attack.

The Standard Dose of Ich-Attack is 10 drops (from a medicinal eye dropper) per gallon or 1 teaspoon (approx. 5mL) of Ich-Attack for every 10 gallons (approx. 45.5 liters) of water. In regular treatment repeat dose daily until 3-4 days after the last infection is observed, including in the mouth, gills, and nostrils. Cold water conditions may require a longer treatment time.

Water changes between treatments are not required for this treatment to be effective, and are not recommended to be done. After all of the treatments are completed, make a 20% or more water change. If tap water is used, it is recommended to use Kordon NovAqua Plus together with AmQuel Plus to detoxify the water being added.

The protozoan infections that are eliminated by Ich-Attack include "white spot disease" (Ich) which is recognized by the very tiny white spots that are on the body and fins of the fish, and in the nostrils, gills, and mouth of the fish. Other protozoan and dinoflagellate infections are detected by their epidermal tissue destruction, including desquamation (loss of scales, shredding of skin), hemorrhaging, and respiratory difficulties.

Fungus is recognized as slimy to cottony growths on the surfaces of the fish, that usually are variously whitish, to yellowish, to brownish in color. In extreme infections the fungus kills the fishes. It is normally a secondary infection, so it is important to determine what the primary infection is.

If the fish have white spot disease, also called Ich (Ichthiophthirius), the treatment will need to be made daily every day without omission until all of the “white spots” have hatched out and their young have been killed by the treatments. This may take weeks for all of the "white spots" to hatch out. While they are in the "white spot" stage on the fish, there is no known effective treatment. Only when the "white spots" hatch out and are in a brief free-swimming stage are they susceptible to treatment.


For Use as a Disease Preventative when no infections are observed:Treat daily for one week, and continue for a longer period as needed for stressed fishes. Be aware that it is easy to miss seeing infections, particularly when they are out of sight, such as in the mouth, gills, and nostrils of the fish. Close observation is needed, including of the fish's behavior to observe abnormal movements.

For well established or severe infections: double the dose. Continue treatments until a cure is effected. It is recommended that for double doses per day, one should be in the morning, the other later in the day. Note that some species of white spot disease (Ich) have only a few hours in the free-swimming stage at which time a treatment is effective in exterminating them. For these species of Ich treatments twice a day are essential for eliminating them to be sure none of the Ich escapes treatment. Do not skip any treatment. For Ich each white spot will produce up to 250 young (in marine species) or up to 1000 young (in freshwater species). If the Ich or other infection returns when Ich-Attack is used twice a day, it is safe to use a triple dose spaced throughout the day.

 

[WILDER]

Thank You.

I have no knowledge on the medication. So I would maybe start a thread in tropical discussion asking members for there opinions on the medication.
Ask if it also turns your tank water a green colour.

Sorry I can't offer more help & advive.

 

[Cookielici0us]

No its alright...and im pretty sure its supposed to turn my water a different color :3 and no worries I'm not quite sure about some of these things myself

 

[WILDER]

Hope the fish get well soon.

Good Luck.