Red Crab In Community Tank?

[fishy55599]

can i keep red crab in a community tank with:

Angel fish
clown loach
dwarf gourami
zebra danios
platy
kuhil loach
cory?

I saw some at pets at home in with other fish.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

At least some species of "Red Crab" need access to dry land or an "atlantis" underwater bubble like this...
http/www.crabhomes.com/

 

[Curiosity101]

I can't say no enough times to express just how much of a big no no red claw crabs are with fish...

Here are a few facts though...
They eat fish... do NOT listen or trust the fish shop when they say they don't

They need access to land at all times as they are not fully aquatic

They are actually brackish (I think... pretty sure they are)


Basically if you like them, get one or two, but give them their own special tank. Don't even try to mix them with fish.

Do a bit of googling and you should find some interesting information on how to keep them if you ever wanted to give them there own species only tank.

http/www.crabhomes.com/

That is pretty cute... but not entirely practical. There is a very clear drawback that it'll never have fresh air unless you remove and replace it.
Edit: Or maybe not? Having read the blurb on that site it suggests you attach an airline too it... in which case it's a pretty awesome idea. And would allow you to mix crabs with fish.

But still stricly no bottom or mid water dwellers. I'd only mix them with fish that will definitely always be above the reach of the crabs.

 

[anwhyte]

they're also brilliant escapologist.

 

[fishy55599]

At least some species of "Red Crab" need access to dry land or an "atlantis" underwater bubble like this...
http/www.crabhomes.com/

very nice.

 

[fishy55599]

Is there one in the uk?

 

[walkers101]

make sure you secure the aquarium

the do eat fish that is true but only sick or dead fish

although they are said to be brackish i have kept 4 for six months and they have been fine in normal conditions

 

[Curiosity101]

the do eat fish that is true but only sick or dead fish

Myself and many others have seen them catch and kill perfectly healthy fish. Particularly bottom feeders. My corys specifically were covered in scratches after only 2 weeks even though the crabs were fed on a high protein/meaty diet.

I have actually observed them 'fishing' and would never trust them with anything that is likely to visit the bottom of the tank.

 

[walkers101]

thats your experiance

(really going in circles with you)

 

[Curiosity101]

Myself and many others

I think you'll find it's you that seems to think one persons limited experience is enough to base a conclusion on... It's not, and it's not something I personally would ever do.

Equally saying your crabs have been ok for 6months isn't particularly useful, their lifespan is 2-4 years. Once you've had them for that long then you can imply that freshwater may have less baring on their health than implied by all resource/species pages.
But I would also suggest you post you water composition if/when that day comes as it may be that only freshwater with a certain TDS is suitable etc.

 

[Assaye]

Crabs with fish are a huge risk. They'll prey on any fish they can - sick fish, dead fish, bottom feeders (such as loaches and corys) and sleeping/dopey fish. I've known crabs to even catch 'fast' fish as they swim past.

Red clawed crabs are social so need to be kept in groups and need specialist tanks with raised areas out of water. They are also brackish and will not thrive long term in freshwater.

They are NOT suitable for a community tank. For everyone who has had success, there are a ton of people who have had them kill fish or becom unwell due to not having land areas, etc. Most people who have had good luck have not been keeping them very long, usually a few months or a year or so - not long enough to assess long term suitability!

 

[fishy55599]

Blue lobstrer [x] Red crab [x] is there any invertibrates i can keep?

 

[Curiosity101]

Not really with angelfish. Because anything that can defend itself is not suitable for keeping with fish.

There are lots of dwarf species of shrimp, cherry shrimp are pretty prolific breeders and cheap to buy. But be aware some will be eaten and I give no guarantees any will survive.

Other inverts... snails. But sadly not with the clown loaches.

 

[RustedKnight]

Blue lobstrer [x] Red crab [x] is there any invertibrates i can keep?

Oddly enough, there is a possibility.

Dwarf Blue legged Hermit Crab - Clibanarius tricolor

These can be kept in low salinity brackish tanks. I used to keep them, and they are full of personality and are great to watch. They are also pretty-much harmless.

I don't know if any of your fishes can be kept in a brackish environment, but the possibility is there. Hope this helps

 

[benjoey]

I came across a crab somewhere on the internet a few days ago, it was called something like Thai micro crab. It said they are similar to shrimp in needs and I don't think they eat fish because they are scavengers, and also too small I think. Maybe someone knows more about these??