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i keep seeing pictures of blue rams and golden rams and i think theyre sooo cute! does anyone have info on them? min. tank size/ community/ what they eat/ where i can get them and other stuff?
 
i just got my german blue rams today and i love them there so cool. there sommunity fish and should have a min tank size of 10 gallons but IMO it should be 20 gallons. it took me 10 petshops to find mine
 
They work out nicely in a community tank but they need caves or pipes to establish territory. If you want to keep a pair, you need at least a 20 gallon but a 10 gallon is the minimum for one fish

Just get some american cichlid food, bloodworms, brine shrimp.

You should find some at your lfs although they tend to be more expensive than the bolivian rams because of the colouring, but they're basically the same fish

I got a pair of bolivian and a pair of blue rams in my 20 gallon. The larger male is the dominant but the others seem to be doing very good too!
 
Are bolivian rams and golden rams the same thing? There are some "golden rams" at my lfs and they are such a bright yellow, with no other colors on them I've been wondering about them.
 
dirtydogg said:
Are bolivian rams and golden rams the same thing? There are some "golden rams" at my lfs and they are such a bright yellow, with no other colors on them I've been wondering about them.
Golden Ram and Blue Ram (Microgeophagus Ramirezi) are the same species; it's only a color variation. Bolivian Ram (Microgeophagus Altispinosa) are different species. Bolivian Ram are supposedly hardier, and tad aggressive. But since I've never kept Bolivian Rams, I can't confirm.

As others have said, 20g is the bare minimum to keep a pair of Rams. The reason for this is that they are fairly sensitive to poor water conditions. Contrary to the common belief, the Rams do NOT need soft/acidic water. I've raised juvenile Rams in hard/alkaline Arizona tap water just fine. But they do NEED clean water. They also NEED plants, rocks, or something they can hide in. They also seem to like high temperature (above 74 degrees).

Rams are bottom feeders. I've only had one that was brave enough to grab food from the surface. This means, if you keep Corys (or other bottom feeders), you need to make sure that enough food gets to both Corys and the Rams. Also, don't keep smart, greedy fish like Bettas with the Rams. Otherwise, your Rams and Corys won't get to eat much, while the betta may die from overeating.

The only thing I don't like about the Rams are their relatively short life span. They don't live more than 2-3 years; about the same as Bettas.

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They are some what territorial. Try not to keep 2 males in a small tank. That also means no RTBS or similarly aggressive territorial tank mates.
 
blue_ram said:
The only thing I don't like about the Rams are their relatively short life span. They don't live more than 2-3 years; about the same as Bettas.
yeah that life span sucks :( i have one ram that i started with when i go tmy 29G if i loose him id be pretty upset
 
yeah that sucks, but on the other hand im into fish like frontosas! i have one male that is 6" big so far and a juvenile 3 month old about 2" they have a life span of 25yrs and are alot of fun to watch and FEED :) i believe they get to around a foot long and their fry sell big also! yet ont hat is the reason i have my rams they ar rare and expensive here in SC

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Fat Albert - male burundi frontosa
 
thanks for all the info guys! if i ever see any rams at a fish store, i'm definitely upgrading.. so far i havent seen them at any of the lfs ive been to.. but ill try not to look for them so i dont end up using much needed christmas money on myself
 

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