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one of my rams it totally chasing the other around everwhere im not sure if they are 2 males as i got them really small and the guy in the fish shop said its really hard to tell

i did put it in a 10gallon tank but one of my tigerbarbs is looking ill so im going to have to use it as a hospital tank as soon as it went back in the main tank it started to get chased
 
It is a little hard to say... is the one that is chasing the other also nipping at him?

It could also be a male and a female, and the male is chasing the female around?

But they are territorial fish, and if you have a small tank, the more dominant one will try to fight the other fish away for his part of the tank.

Pictures could possibly help in determining their sexes if you wanna upload some?

-FHM
 
It is a little hard to say... is the one that is chasing the other also nipping at him?

It could also be a male and a female, and the male is chasing the female around?

But they are territorial fish, and if you have a small tank, the more dominant one will try to fight the other fish away for his part of the tank.

Pictures could possibly help in determining their sexes if you wanna upload some?

-FHM


it dont seem to be touching it but they swim at the same speed not if it could catch it maybe it would nip

its a 70L got 2 caves a few plants, bogwood






you need to click to see them bigger

you can see how white the bottom one is
 
Here is some info I just pulled of the net.

Ram cichlids become relatively easy to sex as they reach early adulthood, which for such a little cichlid, doesn’t take long. Almost all of the commercially available rams I’ve seen over the years, both farmed and wild-caught, have been of sexable age and size. There are a number of traits to use, and we’ll get to the secondary ones in a moment, but the easiest way to sex rams is by looking at the black mid-lateral blotch. In males, there are none of the bright blue spangles inside the blotch, whereas in females, there is. You may have to spend a little time looking at the rams in your dealer’s tank to see the difference, given angles of light and all that, but it is the absolute surest method of assigning gender to a few intended for your aquarium.

A number of secondary traits can also separate the boys from the girls, depending on the maturity of the rams in question. In males, the second and third dorsal spines have extended filaments, as does the first spine on both ventral fins. In general, mature males are larger and longer-bodied than mature females. Females, on the other hand, do not have the extended dorsal and ventral filaments; have a shorter, more stocky body compared to that of males and often a sport a reddish-purple abdomen when in good condition.


Its kinda hard to tell which male or female form the pics since they are far away and it is hard to see their features. But from what I know they kind of look both like females? They have a more rounded tail, and do not have a really pointed dorsal fin. But it is hard to tell since you can't see them close up.

Someone with a little more experience might be able to help you out more than me on the sexing part.

-FHM
 
well id say they are both males simply going my the 3rd extended spine on the dorsal fin

I guess the trained eye always prevails...lol.

It was just a little blurry for me to see that I guess, so I looked at their back fin, which seemed to be rounded, that is why I said female.

But anyways, being that they are both males make sense why they are chasing each other around. They are fighting for territorial rights, at least that is my guess.

You could add more decor to give them more stuff to use, and this might help with the aggression a little bit.

-FHM
 
I had the same problem m8 the only way I could resolve it was to take my male back and they swapped it for a female but now he's chasing her now lol and I think my new female is a german ram and my male is a bolvion ram
 
I had the same problem m8 the only way I could resolve it was to take my male back and they swapped it for a female but now he's chasing her now lol and I think my new female is a german ram and my male is a bolvion ram


i think it is male and female now upon closer inspection as the blue dots are in the black spot on the faded one

they seem to have calmed slightly but the female always swims toards the male
 
Not sure on number one, could be male but possibly female.
Number 2 female, the females anal fin besides being more rounded never passes the junction between the tail and the body.

The picture in my sig shows two males.

They are both quite young yet to use the dorsal fin rule, this tends to work better as the rams mature.
The females will also develop a pink abdomen area.

The spangly bits you talk about are not a concrete way to tell for there are many exceptions to this rule and to a novice, a male with a few spangles can be mistaken for a female. If you are seasoned at sexing rams you will know female spangly bits, they are very different and remain if the colour of the ram fades, whereas the males do not.

If you could get a full side on picture of the first ram, I can confirm sex for you.
 
Not sure on number one, could be male but possibly female.
Number 2 female, the females anal fin besides being more rounded never passes the junction between the tail and the body.

The picture in my sig shows two males.

They are both quite young yet to use the dorsal fin rule, this tends to work better as the rams mature.
The females will also develop a pink abdomen area.

The spangly bits you talk about are not a concrete way to tell for there are many exceptions to this rule and to a novice, a male with a few spangles can be mistaken for a female. If you are seasoned at sexing rams you will know female spangly bits, they are very different and remain if the colour of the ram fades, whereas the males do not.

If you could get a full side on picture of the first ram, I can confirm sex for you.

ok i will try tonight our digital camara is really crap though so im having to take the pictures on my iphone
 

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