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so, often people complain, about the cost to heat their aquariums... so long as they are in your house ( sorry, this excluded @GaryE ... ) the aquariums act as radiant heater for your home, so in theory, your furnace shouldn't have to run as much... aquarium heaters are pretty efficient, for what they do, as far as electric heat... I know often gas, is cheaper over all to heat with, but there are still many many houses that heat with electric today...

there you go... a good excuse to buy a new aquarium
 
Well, I'm going to say look at solar! OK, I live in an area of high cost of both electricity & gas. We only pay the "distribution" fee each month. ~$25 or $30 maybe now. but we'd pay that anyway & might include gas hot water for 2 (but not gas heat). We pay nothing else for electricity; heavy AC users, pool owners, 4 tanks, no "time of use" restrictions. It's been fabulous!!! We're thinking about a heat pump soon to replace our old dying gas furnace while the rebates last.
 
I've wondered how the British hobby has handled their energy costs. It seemed like a lot of people were leaving the hobby when the energy crunch hit there.

Tanks aren't efficient heating sources, though I think we should all say they are to grow the hobby. I mean, telling the truth is so 20th century. If you build an insulation wall around a tank, it looks awful, but you can do things. Some insulation is good. A tight cover is good. Several tanks bunched in a room together is better than one. You can then heat the individual room.

And as I always repeat, research saves money. Look at the temps your fish really need, not the ones the pet store says. This hobby was popular before 99% of us were born, and in my Canadian environment, houses were poorly heated back then. Tropical fish will die if cold, but if you can maintain their lower range natural temps, they thrive. I know local aquarists who insist on having tanks in the 30s/80s, and who are harming their fish and their budgets with that level of heat. Look into it, and a lot of fish are fine at 22-24 decrees, but are kept at 26 to 30. It's expensive and wasteful.
I bought some preset heaters cheap at one point, and they kept their tanks at 26c. Why? The fish liked 24c.
Follow this and there will be some unemployed Discus and other really warm water species - but we don't keep many of those.

My neighbour up the road put in solar panels, and I hope to talk with her in the Spring. It's a big cash outlay here, and in comparison to @fishorama 's California habitat, our energy demands for heat are way higher. Plus California is rumoured to have this mythical thing called sunshine. That thing that vaguely glows greyly through the clouds is apparently free range down there. People who attempt to sun worship here rapidly become atheists.
 
It was posted in jest, but may be missing the point, I have a well insulated, but unheated room in the house we call it a "mud room" on the farm, it's the main entrance we use into the house, so the doors open and close quite a bit, and there is a lot of heat loss to that room during the winter it's probably 8 feet by 16 feet in size, and has a door between that room and the main heated part of the house... a 45 gallon and 65 gallon heat the room... it used to get cold enough to freeze and explode soda cans, before I put the tanks in there, and now even at - 40 degree F. , the room remains comfortable... the same effect happens with the main tanks in the rest of the house, that is heated, it's just not as noticeable...
 
Do you have a sense of what it costs to heat the mudroom tanks? I know energy costs don't translate well internationally dollar for dollar, but do you think it adds a lot?
 
on the farm, it just gets absorbed, Mrs. complains about the electric bill, but it certainly isn't wasted like the electricity used for heated animal waterers for all the farm animals... I always wait as long as possible before plugging all those in... we run 5 of them through the coldest part of the winter... the biggest draw, is for the cattle tank, which is a small heater for the size of cattle tank and doesn't completely keep the big tank ice free, but melted enough they can drink, that is a 1500 watt heater... the other 4 use less power, but the tank heaters in the house use less power, and don't run 100% of the time, and lose heat to the insulated room, rather than to the atmosphere outside...

I have a 220 volt electric baseboard heater in that room, that we quit using, long ago, because it cost too much... with the aquariums, I believe the cost to heat must be similar degree for degree, but I get the benefit of the aquariums to look at, and the efficient led lighting, so we rarely turn on the light switch for the room lighting...

so I expect similar costs, but with benefits, to just running traditional electric heat in that room...
 
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It's interesting for people who make a living with high energy use businesses. My brother in law's retiring from farming, and selling off his land and equipment out west. He's going to get a shock when a lot of purchases and expenses he takes for granted cease to be business tax expenses.
For a while when aquarium equipment wasn't nearly as energy efficient as it is now, my fishroom was fine because it was a small business expense. It was a necessity for me to be able to sell the info I'd gathered from it as a sideline income. It was a rough jolt when the internet killed print and everything was free. Once lower energy use lights and such arrived, it got better, but I was glad I have an understanding partner.
I get a sense a lot of the urban members here really focus on energy costs in everything they do.
 

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