Pushing My Luck

[moonplaty]

i just got 14 babies from a superovercrowded 10 gallon tank she had 50 +or so fish in a 10 gallon she had the tank 5x capacity yet she never lost a fish now here is waht im wondering i got 20 gallon tank the bigger fish i have are two goldfish now my question i got 20 fish thought i would like get 2 or 3 more small fish and a leech and pleco for to keep the tank clean thought im thinking i can forgo the pleco go 2 cory cats now with a lot of plants a weekly water change salt and a secondary filter is it maintainable while i know the golden rule of one fish a gallon is it feasible while i know the risk of death and deases is increased is there any way to way to make it work its probably not gonna be a prob as i doubt the 14 babies will all survive some may die as i put them all in at once while i hated doing that i figured there chance was a lot better than an algea infested almost 6x capacity tank fish seend to have accepted the fish and are not stress only one of them is more stress than normal all the other fish are acting like usual was surprised they took it well all the fish are babies now im thinking long term here addid a few more fish wont cause me a prob till 2 3 months down the road when the other ones get bigger of some breed might from there i might get a small 5 gallon tank or something to put acess fish till i can gave them away now heres another question
what you guys do with your fish when you get overcrowded? will petstore take some to sell ?

also wondering plants is it better in or out the pot ?

also wondering is there living coral kinda deal with softwater?

lol anxioulsy waiting your comments




more and less im planning to buy anoth 5 6 fish this will cause no problems as most of the babies are about a 10th of an inch thought like to see my options for long term

also got something that came from the other tank when i open the bag to open the fish out its in my tank almost look like a catepilar alguea or plant spore?

 

[three-fingers]

Never try to overstock your tank . But if you dont have a choice its usually ok for one or two small fish . My tank is apparently slightly over stocked right now but the filter i use for my tank is rated for much bigger tanks and i also have an under gravel filter.

a leech and pleco for to keep the tank clean

A leech? Wtf lol? And dont get a pleco, they get WAAAY to big for that tank .

also wondering plants is it better in or out the pot ?

Depends alot on what condition the plant is in, what type of plant, fish in the tank and substrate used. If in doubt just leave it in.

also wondering is there living coral kinda deal with softwater?

No idea what you are talking about really, sorry. Do you mean is there living coral for freshwater?
Because there isnt, so please dont try it! .

p.s.Please use sentances in future, it makes your posts easyer to read/understand .

 

[Sheve]

Whoah --poor goldfish. If they're fancies, they need 10 gallons per fish. If they're commons (single-tailed), they really need 15 gallons per fish. Otherwise they're stunted, unhealthy, easily die, etc.

Most will say 'but my fish has been fine for years' until they get a disease that rampages through their overstocked tank.

 

[Boids-n-more]

The only fish people over stock on purpose are cichlids . They over stock them on purpose to spread out the aggressiveness to more than 1 fish. Cichlid tanks are also way over filtered for this purpose. Also all the fish you mentioned are fresh water and all corals are salt water , they won't work togeather. plants will work in your tank and as far as the pot is concerned its really up to you.

 

[Tolak]

I wouldn't think about adding any other fish, you need a bigger tank for the goldfish as it is. I'm hoping you mean loach, not leech.

Fry tanks can be overstocked to some extent, but it's nothing you want to try as a beginner. It requires overfiltration, at least double, if not triple. You also need to do large water changes more often. If you don't do either of these, you risk fish deaths, as well as stunting of the remaining fish. No lfs will take deformed fish.

Most non-corporate owned fish stores will take in extra fish. I would start with trading in the goldfish, and grow out the fry. Keep 2 males & 4 females from the fry, choose the best looking ones. There are your future breeders. They will breed, all livebearers do. You can sell more fry, giving you more money for tanks & related equipment. With more tanks, or a larger tank, you have room for the corys, loachs & such. It's how I started several years back, check my profile for what I have running now.

As far as sentence structure & punctuation, read out loud what you have posted. That's the easiest way to start figuring out sentence structure & paragraph breaks.

BTW, I like your name, platys were called moons back in the day.

 

[funnibunni80]

I have a 26 gallon tank with three goldfish in it. That is overstocking. It's good that you got them out of a bad situation, but still not the greatest idea, ya know?

The do have pelcos that stay small, but never mix ANY algae eater with goldfish... especially the fancier tailed ones. Pelcos get more agressive as they grow older, then they get bored with algae, and start sucking on the slime coats of fish they can catch. Bye bye goldfish. Pelcos are fast, goldies (esp. fancy tailed ones) are slower. Corys are cool... but not in a crowded tank.

Take Tolak's advice, and take them to a local fish store. You won't get much, but then you can keep the ones you like best, and take better care of them. If well taken care of, goldfish can live up to double digits easy... and there is a reason most of them live in ponds...

Just some thoughts. I am putting my three in a 45gal with a few cory cats... and I still think I am pushing it.