Pump Has Died

[robodan]

Got a Juwel rekord 96 tank with stock Juwel 400 pump....

Some point today, just noticed it has stopped.

STripped it down and cleaned it and got it going again but at a much reduced rate.

Now will the filter and fish be ok? and I want to replace the pump anyway with an external, what is the best? Eheim I have been told. if so what model? will spend around £100 give or take.

thanks for your help.

 

[peter22UK]

Got a Juwel rekord 96 tank with stock Juwel 400 pump....

Some point today, just noticed it has stopped.

STripped it down and cleaned it and got it going again but at a much reduced rate.

Now will the filter and fish be ok? and I want to replace the pump anyway with an external, what is the best? Eheim I have been told. if so what model? will spend around £100 give or take.

thanks for your help.

eheim are good, but Fluvial 5 series are also pretty good too..and cheaper

 

[shelaghfishface]

im assuming that the pump is an air pump and it dosent power the filter? in which case, no problem,can you move the outlet pipe of the filter to aggitate the surface of the water,just till you replace it

EDIT after re-reading i have no idea what the item is so please disregard my advice/question

 

[rabbut]

The reduced flow rate is better than none Is the media clogged? Try cleaning it to increase flow If that doesn't work, the pump/filter needs replacing, as the pump is on it's way out and may only be a few days away from complete failure

Eheim are rated the best exturnal on here, with the Pro2 range being the best IMO. The classics are proven, but less flexible... The pro1 range has like no features, see it too ways; less to go wrong or just harder to work on? Pro 3's haven't been round long and are as yet un-proven... Eccos are unrealiable IME and in the expreience of other members, and thermo filters from any brand are un-reliable....

On £100 budget, getting a suited eheim may be tight..... If you find that £100 doesn't streach to a suitable pro2 model, I'd get a Tetratec EX700, that can be picked up form £80 in-store or £60 delivered on-line, well within you budget

Fluval are proven to be un-reliable, with like 50% of users reporting catestrophic failures of the main seal ring, or aqua-stop seals just outside warrenty, which drain their tanks onto the floor as a result IME they also chanel, and they clogg within 2 weeks in secnarios where every other filter will go 6 months without a clean..... I hate them with avengance after my 404 electric shocked me, and had the main seal ring fail for the second time in 6 months......Take your pick

When you get your new filter, dump all the old filter media into a basket, and then pack arround it with new filter material, to instantly cycle the new filter and ensure ammonia doesn't spike after the old Juwel internal finaly packs up

HTH
Rabbut

 

[robodan]

I found a Eheim 2026 for £109 online with media, went to my local maidenhead aquatics and they are selling them for £188 without media bloomin rip off!!!!

Juwell will be replaced as I know a man who can!!! so that will keep me going and I will be ordering the above filter, unless its not big enough for my tank, i know you should get the most powerfull you can afford, i think the next one up the 2028 is £139. I suppose the water will be much clearer with a bigger filter/pump?

Didnt realise that about the filter media, will there be enough space to put the old media in the new filter as well as new media???

 

[adamgreen240]

if you need the filter straigh away, print the page online and take it into maidenheads and they will match the price for you, that way you wont have to wait for postage.

 

[robodan]

if you need the filter straigh away, print the page online and take it into maidenheads and they will match the price for you, that way you wont have to wait for postage.

They will price match!!! Thats amazing, expecially at the extortionate price they were charging.

I dont need it straight away but would like it sooner rather then later as once i want something i tend to have to get it eventually.

 

[rabbut]

The 2026 is possibly overkill It will have taps to slow the flow though, so it isn't an issue.

There is lots of space for media in an exturnal, so you will get most of the new meida into the filter along-side the old. Give it about 6 weeks and then start swapping out the old media for the new

HTH
Rabbut

 

[robodan]

The 2026 is possibly overkill It will have taps to slow the flow though, so it isn't an issue.

There is lots of space for media in an exturnal, so you will get most of the new meida into the filter along-side the old. Give it about 6 weeks and then start swapping out the old media for the new

HTH
Rabbut

Overkill in what way? I was under the impression that the higher the turnover rate of water the better, Also would it make it crystal clear water the higher the turnover rate?

Also I have sorted out the issue, it was ont the bloomin filter wool, totally clogged up, only put it in on Saturday, guess it must be due to the change from gravel to sand maybe??

 

[alysonpeaches]

The 2026 is possibly overkill It will have taps to slow the flow though, so it isn't an issue.

There is lots of space for media in an exturnal, so you will get most of the new meida into the filter along-side the old. Give it about 6 weeks and then start swapping out the old media for the new

HTH
Rabbut

Overkill in what way? I was under the impression that the higher the turnover rate of water the better, Also would it make it crystal clear water the higher the turnover rate?

Also I have sorted out the issue, it was ont the bloomin filter wool, totally clogged up, only put it in on Saturday, guess it must be due to the change from gravel to sand maybe??

I have a Juwel 96 and it has had the Juwel filter removed. I replaced it with a Fluval 3 plus internal filter and its fine. I have thought about an external one, but the expense is so much greater and I understand they are actually tricker to maintain if you are new to them.

Have you cleaned the impeller? Can the impeller be replaced?

 

[rabbut]

I thought overkill when I looked over the stats, and I spotted a flow rate of 950lph.... Thats 10 and a bit times an hour turnover.... That may turn your tank into a wirlpool, but savvy positioning of the outlet may prevent this Also, thinking about it, you loose like 40% of the flow from an exturnal by simply adding media and hoses, so in reality it will only push about 500-600lph, which isn't far off the stock internal.... They have flow control valves, so you can turn the flow down if requred

Changing from gravel to sand would likely be the reason for the clogged filter wool

Exturnals are IMO easier to clean without a mess, but they do take longer to maintain. That said, they only need attention every few months, rather than every few days, so the extra work is offset by the extra run-time Logical minded people will be finding them as easy as internals to maintain, as they have many similarities, with the only real modifications to speak of being they are adapted to take hoses... These modifications are easily sused with a basic knowlage of internals and a bit of logic

IMO, exturnals are far supirior to internals, and all my tanks have now been "converted" to the better filter units

HTH
Rabbut

 

[robodan]

I thought overkill when I looked over the stats, and I spotted a flow rate of 950lph.... Thats 10 and a bit times an hour turnover.... That may turn your tank into a wirlpool, but savvy positioning of the outlet may prevent this Also, thinking about it, you loose like 40% of the flow from an exturnal by simply adding media and hoses, so in reality it will only push about 500-600lph, which isn't far off the stock internal.... They have flow control valves, so you can turn the flow down if requred

HTH
Rabbut

Considering the not too far off stock internal flow rate would i be better off going for the next model up? the 2028... Then should I upgrade the tank to a larger one I have a big enough filter to take it.

Not sure about the dimension's though, it may not fit in the cabinet!!!

 

[clinton ><>]

i use aqua one external filter with all my tanks and i found them to be exstreamly good ive never had a problem with them yet (touch wood), and they are cheaper than most other makes

 

[rabbut]

Never used Aqua one, so can't realy comment on them...

The next model up will also have a flow control, so yes you can use that one also, and as you say, it is not likely to need many changes to it if you up-grade later

If you do need to lower the flow (likely with the next model up), then use the valves on the outlet side only, as using the inlet valve to lower flow will put the motor under increased pressure and caurse premature failures, where as the outlet valve will not

The 2026 will be suffice for your tank, but IMO you cannot "overfilter" unless you create a tank with so much flow that the fish are blasted arround like newspapers in the centre of a tornado.....

HTH
Rabbut

 

[robodan]

fair enough, i will consider my options then, i prefer to go large so to speak but depends on her indoors!!!

Tha nks for all your help