Poorly Discus - Swim Bladder?

[part-timer]

Looking like one of my red melons has swim bladder disease. Displaying all the symptoms - swimming erratically, bumping into things, no balance or direction. Everyone else looks happy in the tank and he shows no other symptoms indicating other possible cause. He seemed happy last night, feeding as normal and he seems to be in relatively early stages based on him still being active bar all over the place!

Water parameters are perfect for them and no signs of stress in the tank.

Am I missing any other possible diagnosis and doe anyone recommend any meds knowing its often incurable? I can't raise the temp too much as I have cory's and tetras in there with my discus.

 

[WILDER]

Is the fish also bloated.
Only thing you can do for swim bladder is some frozen cooked peas.
Bacterial med.

 

[part-timer]

Is the fish also bloated.
Only thing you can do for swim bladder is some frozen cooked peas.
Bacterial med.

He was actually looking really gaunt. I added some meds to the tank but unfortunately it was too late - was taking lon rests on the bottom between swims and the cory's kept having a little nibble (his slime I presume) and I chose to euthanise as didn't look like he was going to pull through at all. Gutted, and so it the other red melon - he's sulking in the corner of the tank at the moment and not mixing with the other discus today.

 

[WILDER]

Sorry bless him R.I.P.

 

[part-timer]

Really odd situation - the other red melon suddenly stopped eating and displayed identical systems but with a much shorter timescale and also passed away - happened very rapidly unlike the first. Other discus are currently in quarantine and looking absolutely fine, feeding and trying to assert dominance over each other as usual.

Wondering if there was some genetic weakness in my red melons that made them both fall to some disease. Very disappointing but these things happen......

 

[WILDER]

Swim bladder can be fetched on by poor diet, bad water quality, and temp being up and down.

 

[part-timer]

Overall conditions are about as good as I can get them and monitored as a matter of routine so I know temp, water quality etc is fine. Diet is fine as well - a good mix for all fish but primarily the discus - bloodword, frozen brineshrimp/garlic, tetra prima, flake, frozen discus diet in the main.

Really don't know what happened to them - initially the symptoms were suggesting swim-bladder problems but the 2nd Red Melon went from apparently healthy and feeding to dead in 24 hours. Both in their final hours were swimming erratically and banging into anything and everything.

As it only affected the melons can only assume there was some weakness in them that made them succumb to an unknown disease that became evident in the tank. No recent fish either that may have brought anything in.

Putting it down to 'one of those things'

 

[WILDER]

They can swim errtic and band into things with swim bladder.
Good luck.

 

[part-timer]

Cheers mate and thanks for your replies. Apart from the disappointing loss of those 2 guys, everything else is looking 'as normal' so hoping it really was just one of those things that I'll never get to the bottom of.

 

[WILDER]

Make sure your fish are not producing long stringy white poo or mucas looking poo.
Good luck,