Poor Red Agassizi Help

[jacko32]

can anyone tell me what killed this fish he was fine last night at 12pm
then today at 11am it was like this [media]

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it was fine yesterday swimming around and eating normally i just cant understand whats happened it was my only male aswell my 3 girls are fine
do i need to treat for any desease ? if so what desease do i treat for ?

 

[WILDER]

Bless Him.
R.I.P.


Looks bacterial to me.
If the pink or reddish patch isn't markings. (Not familar with this type of fish).

How many gallons or litries is the tank.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

 

[jacko32]

Bless Him.
R.I.P.


Looks bacterial to me.
If the pink or reddish patch isn't markings. (Not familar with this type of fish).

How many gallons or litries is the tank.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

hi thanks for your reply stats are ammonia 0ppm nitrite 0ppm nitrate is 0.25ppm
tank is 25uk gallons but only has around 22g in it
other fish in the tank are 6 black widdow tetras 2 dwarf gourami and my 3 female agassizi
no the red patch isnt marking im gessing thats the infection it wasnt there last night at 12pm then this morning at 11am hes was like this

 

[WILDER]

I would just preform some water change for the next few days.

Signs of bacteria infections are.
The fish will look pale or darker in colour.
Fish will act listless and lethagic.
The fish will rest on the substrate leaning to oneside.
The fish will try to get off the bottom of the tank only to fall back down again.
Red steaking or sores on the fish.
The fish will heavy breath.
Sometimes the fish will stop eating.

There just some of the signs of a bacterial infection.

 

[jacko32]

I would just preform some water change for the next few days.

Signs of bacteria infections are.
The fish will look pale or darker in colour.
Fish will act listless and lethagic.
The fish will rest on the substrate leaning to oneside.
The fish will try to get off the bottom of the tank only to fall back down again.
Red steaking or sores on the fish.
The fish will heavy breath.
Sometimes the fish will stop eating.

There just some of the signs of a bacterial infection.

i did a water change after i fished him out about 40% all the other fish look fine i think it must have been bacterial though
shame though he was just about to colour up aswell
strange how it happened so fast though maybe he ate a bad worm
thanks for your help

 

[WILDER]

if a fish has a weak immune system the fish will soon become to the bacteria infection.
Once bacteria infections advance fast, there hard to cure.

Soak your fish food in garlic juice to boost your fish immune system.

Sorry for your loss. I know how you feel.

 

[jacko32]

if a fish has a weak immune system the fish will soon become to the bacteria infection.
Once bacteria infections advance fast, there hard to cure.

Soak your fish food in garlic juice to boost your fish immune system.

Sorry for your loss. I know how you feel.

didnt even get chance to try and medicate buy the time i got to my lfs and back he was dead
i was looking in to buying some medicated food but you cant buy it in the uk and postage from the US on ebay is £20
now i need to buy a new male for my girls

 

[WILDER]

Good Luck with the new fish.
But I would wait a few weeks just to make sure all the fish are well.

 

[jacko32]

Good Luck with the new fish.
But I would wait a few weeks just to make sure all the fish are well.

yeah im going to waite a few weeks ill keep testing the water and doing 30% changes every other day i have some meds now so its just a case of observation now
thanks

 

[WILDER]

Ok. That's fine.
Good Luck.

Some pics of fish with bacteria infections.
Just scroll down to bacteria infections.
http/images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http/www.jbl.de/onlinehospitaluk/perpicture/hospital_pictures/041_c.jpg&imgrefurl=http/www.jbl.de/onlinehospitaluk/perpicture/index.php%3FStep%3D2%26GalleryId%3D2&usg=__ka4RIDbHtG0JlPV5y1RHNHWiVaY=&h=250&w=380&sz=41&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=R-W5KrCzA6lM1M:&tbnh=81&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcolumnaris%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

 

[jacko32]

Ok. That's fine.
Good Luck.

Some pics of fish with bacteria infections.
Just scroll down to bacteria infections.
http/images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http/www.jbl.de/onlinehospitaluk/perpicture/hospital_pictures/041_c.jpg&imgrefurl=http/www.jbl.de/onlinehospitaluk/perpicture/index.php%3FStep%3D2%26GalleryId%3D2&usg=__ka4RIDbHtG0JlPV5y1RHNHWiVaY=&h=250&w=380&sz=41&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=R-W5KrCzA6lM1M:&tbnh=81&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcolumnaris%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

i think the other fish are sick now white stringy poop from my dwarf gourami and some black spots on the fins of 1 of the black widdows

 

[WILDER]

Do you have any snails in the tank.

What do you normally feed the fish.

Just going to check something for you.

 

[jacko32]

Do you have any snails in the tank.

What do you normally feed the fish.

Just going to check something for you.

there has been a few snails recently i keep fishing them out and getting rid of them
i feed them all sorts of stuff
live food i culture myself white worm and grindal worm
frozen brine shrimp and bloodworm
then dried foods they have red crumb and tetramin flake

 

[WILDER]

Feed some shelled peas. If that dosn't clear the stringy white poo up, get back to the board.

The black spots on the fish are probably due to the snails. You will need to get the snails oout of the tank.
Get you some info.

Black Spot



Symptoms:

Your fish will have small black spots measuring about 2 millimeters in diameter. These can be found anywhere on the fish�s body and fins. Cysts may be found in the internal organs. It is typical for African Cichlids, however, to constantly have little black spots, especially around their mouths. These black spots should not be mistaken for "Black Spot." These are scabs, which have resulted from digging in the gravel or from fighting.



Cause:

Larvae of parasitic digenetic flukes, Cercaria and Metacercaria. The spots seen contain larval stages of digenetic flukes. The life cycle of these parasitic flukes begins when fish-eating birds and other animals ingest fish infected with the parasites. Once ingested the parasites mature in the intestines of the host animal where they produce eggs. The eggs are then deposited into the water where they hatch and infect the livers of aquatic snails. The parasites then develop into a second and then third larval stage before leaving the snail to seek out a fish host. This type of parasitic infestation is most common in wild caught fish and pond fish.



Treatment:

Remove all snails from the aquarium or pond to end the cycle of infection. Treatment is rarely necessary and can be difficult if not impossible. Minor infestations may clear without treatment as the larvae will eventually die and be absorbed by the host's immune responses. Copper Sulfate may be helpful in severe cases.

 

[jacko32]

Feed some shelled peas. If that dosn't clear the stringy white poo up, get back to the board.

The black spots on the fish are probably due to the snails. You will need to get the snails oout of the tank.
Get you some info.

i think they came on some plants they look like common pond snails
are frozen peas ok if i defrost then and shell them