Please advise on size

mikeg

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I want to set my tank up for mbuna. I have read the suggested tank size and I agree with what I see. The reccommendation is nothing less than 36" length. My question is - I have an oceanic 50g which measures 30L x 21H x 18 deep. Not ideal I am sure. Can I however use this tank if I stock appropriately? Perhaps only five or six 3" - 5" fish?

I will try to do all the right things within my power to give these guys a good home. I just don't want to shoehorn the fish.

Thank you

Mikeg
 
The height of the tank is the problem as Mbuna dwell in the lower area of the tank and the upper half will therefore remain unused. I would still say its possible though but only with the likes of Yellow labs or P.Acei, certainly nothing aggressive. You could keep something like 6 of 1 species or smaller numbers of 2 seperate species of the least aggressive Mbuna.

As another thought, your tank would be perfect for Angelfish with some interesting Plec's or other catfish as tankmates.
 
Ferris said:
The height of the tank is the problem as Mbuna dwell in the lower area of the tank and the upper half will therefore remain unused.
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Hi Ferris (long time no speak!)

I keep hearing and reading this about Mbuna being bottom dwellers but I find that mine love to swim in all areas of my 55 and often spend loads of time towards the top of their tank enjoying a swim in the current of my internal filter :nod: .

mikeg, I would go with the mbuna but, as Ferris says, err on the cautious side when choosing your fish and go for the less aggressive species.

steve.
 
I have an oceanic 50g which measures 30L x 21H x 18 deep. Not ideal I am sure. Can I however use this tank if I stock appropriately? Perhaps only five or six 3" - 5"
The length of the tank is recommended not in terms of being able to stock more, but being able to stock a wider variety of fish. The more aggressive mbuna are, the more length they need in the tank because they have that much more distance to run from each other and get out of site. Your tank has a nice footprint non-the-less, and you can work with this, especially if you take advantage of the extra depth (18" instead of the usual 12") when decorating the tank. Since the tank is short, however, you simply need to go with species that aren't too aggressive. Some ideas of this can be

Labidochromis Caeruleus (yellow lab, electric yellow), Iodotropheus Sprengerae, Pseudotropheus Acei, and Aulonocara (peacock) (most, but not all, types). You can fit about 8 fish comfortably - I'd do something like 4 Acei and 4 labs, or 4 labs, 3 rusties, and a single Aulonocara male. The choice is yours. You also have the option of some catfish - perhaps some synodontis petricola, as they are small and do great in these tanks. Catfish stay out of the way, and with 50 gallons of volume you can add a few of these on top of, not instead of, your mbuna.

Whatever you choose, don't randomly buy mbuna unless you are sure. In a tank that's too short aggressive fish become even more aggressive, and you'll just end up with problems. There are a few other species besides the ones I've mentioned that may work, but those are by far the best alternatives for you. As far as decorating the tank - the higher you stack the rocks, the more height they will use, but they tend not to rise much above the rock peak - unless they're getting chased there or under duress and trying to avoid an aggressor.
 
Hi Ferris (long time no speak!)

Hi Steve, its been a while! :D

I keep hearing and reading this about Mbuna being bottom dwellers but I find that mine love to swim in all areas of my 55 and often spend loads of time towards the top of their tank enjoying a swim in the current of my internal filter .

I think this depends on the tank decor, if the decor (rocks, plants, whatever) extends near the surface, Mbuna will utilise this space. This happens to some extent in my tank, as per usual its just a general rule. :)
 
Thanks for the wonderful responses. Not knowing much about cichlids myself, your opinions are valued and seem right on the money. They have given me the insight to be able to plan a functioning and viable environment using my current tanks limiting dimensions. I guess you have something like the picture below in mind? ha ha ha!


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I suppose some of your suggestions are made with an eye toward having babies. Assuming I could sex them right, would there be a chance for them to spawn in this setup? That would be incredible!!

Again thanks
 
Cichlids don't need much encouragement to spawn so don't think you'll have a problem there. Watch out for the heightened aggression during this period though, Mbuna are great parents and will protect their fry (if they don't eat them 1st) :lol:
 

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