Persistent Flicking..... Not Ich

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Right, my little betta, binky. Has been flicking on and off for about 3 weeks now and I'm starting to get a little concerned.

Tank's 8g heated and filtered.
Water stat's I've tested a few times the last few weeks and they are consistently
ph - 7.4
amonia - 0
nitrite - 0
nitrate less than 5

It first started after I was about 2 days late with a water change, if this is co-incidence or not I don't know. I do about 25% change every week, vac the whole tank and prune off dead leaves on plants.

When I first saw it my initial thought was ich..... so I cranked the temp up and added salt, after a few days he seemed to be flicking less. he's not developed any white spots or other signs of disease, he's still eating and seems quite happy. But he just won't stop flicking, 3 weeks on now I'm a little concerned. Surley if it was ich he'd have some spots by now? It's not all the time or even every day, just sometimes I notice him doing it.

One of my thoughts is that my plants weren't doing too well so maybe the debris from the dying leaves could be getting caught in his scales, so this weekend I upped my lighting to 2wpg and started dosing with flourish and flourish excel so hopefully the plants should do better which will at least take this problem out of the equation if not fix it. The plants do seem to be doing better already so fingers crossed.

Another thought was stress, I've been tinkering with the plants and aquascape a fair bit to try and get it right and could this have stressed him to the point he'd be flicking? I've tried to keep my hands out of the tank as much as possible the last few weeks, but obviously with still wanting to remove all dead leaves and debris I have to put them in there a bit.

Sooooo fingers crossed things should start to look up with the plants gettign sorted, but I was just wondering if anyone else has any thoughts on what could be causing it or what I should do or watch out for.

Thanks
 
Only thing i can think of with no signs of parasites on the fish is flukes.
Any change in the gill area.
 
Only thing i can think of with no signs of parasites on the fish is flukes.
Any change in the gill area.


nope, i thought of that myself so have been looking for changes around the gill's too and not seen anything :/

it's most perplexing!!
 
Have you change water conditioner, or added anything to the tank.
 
Have you change water conditioner, or added anything to the tank.


nope we always use api tap water conditioner, added various plants over the last few months, always from a reputable source though so probably alright.

aside from that all i've added is the flourish and flourish excel for the plants but that was only the last few days this was going on long before. oh and i put an indian almond leaf in for a bit cos they're supposed to be good for betta's
 
Just wondering if something was irratating his skin in his tank.
I see what you mean it hard to pin point it.
Did you sterlise the plants.

Any changes in ph.
 
yeah i know, the skin irritation is all i can think of, which is why I'm trying to sort out the plants, less dead leaves less irritation.

nope, never do tbh, probably should :/

nope, ph is 7.2-7.4 in all our tanks unless we've done something specific to change it like with the marines.
 
If hes not laboured breathing i would just keep a close eye on him like you are doing.
Nothing to point it too.
Stats are good, and no symtoms apart from the flicking, gills are fine.
No signs on the body either.
You could take him to the lfs for a skin scrape to put your mind at rest.
 
If hes not laboured breathing i would just keep a close eye on him like you are doing.
Nothing to point it too.
Stats are good, and no symtoms apart from the flicking, gills are fine.
No signs on the body either.
You could take him to the lfs for a skin scrape to put your mind at rest.

exactly, i just can't think what it could be?! Just keeping an eye and on top of the tanka s much as I can.

hmmm skin scrape, doesn't sound nice! would be a bit concerned about stressing him out unnescessarily :/ maybe if it's still going on in a few weeks
 
Ok, good luck.
If you have a microscope you could do it yourself but wouldnt no what i was looking at anyway.
I wouild get you a link but i'm on my son computor as mine broke and needs mending.
 
Ok, good luck.
If you have a microscope you could do it yourself but wouldnt no what i was looking at anyway.
I wouild get you a link but i'm on my son computor as mine broke and needs mending.

i haven't a microscope, and also wouldn't know what to look for.

no worries I'll just play it by ear for now, if it's still happening in a week or so I'll google it :good:
 
You don't keep anything with the betta like a snail or strimp.
 
nope, there's a few mts's in there to keep the sand stirred but they've been in since day 1 of having him. No tankmates as such
 

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