Palliative Treatment For Betta With Dropsy And Bloat

April FOTM Photo Contest Starts Now!
FishForums.net Fish of the Month
🏆 Click to enter! 🏆

hsdiaz

New Member
Joined
May 5, 2007
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Hi everyone,
I've been doing a ton of research on dropsy in bettas, because my male betta, Marco, has been swollen for months. His scales have only begun to rise in the last week or so, and it's subtle (they don't stick out as much as some of the pics of goldfish you may see). He was inititally in an unheated and unfiltered vase, about a gallon, and I think the water conditions caused him to start swelling in the belly, probably due to a bacterial infection-this was before I started to really begin getting educated about bettas. At first I thought he was constipated, but then saw that he was pooping, so that wasn't it. About a month ago, I bought a 5-gallon hexagon tank with a water heater and filter and have set the temp to 80-82 degrees. He loved it and was flaring his gills and making bubble nests for a few days, until the novelty wore off.

Anyways, I've been through several treatment phases with him. First a combo of Maracyn and Maracyn 2 for five days. Nothing. I then tried Kanamycin for 5 days. Still nothing. I've been diligently doing the water changes and everything a good fish mommy is supposed to. His swelling has been very gradual and chronic, nothing sudden. He also has had a normal appetite and is pretty lively, despite looking like a little balloon. So I don't want to euthanize him just yet.

I started feeding him some antibacterial fish pellets, soaked in tank water for 15 minutes first, and he hated them. I think they're too big. So I crushed up the dry pellets and now he'll eat the smaller portions. I'm doing this as one last antibacterial effort, and have accepted that he has kidney failure and will probably not recover. He may also be like this for months, who knows.

However, I have been concerned about how SWOLLEN he gets, and it worries me because I know he can't be comfortable, even though his behavior is still normal. I was also worried because he didn't seem to be pooping very often at all--his belly probably got so swollen that it was blocking him, making him unable to pass it. Also, his eyes got so swollen that he couldn't move them around to see when I fed him--I had to put the food directly in front of him so he could see it to eat it.

So, I've read a couple of posts in other forums about people who have drained the fluid with a syringe, and I decided to try it since really, there's nothing to lose at this point.

I bought a pack of BD Ultra-Fine II Insulin syringes at my local grocery store pharmacy. The needle is very small (5/16" or 8mm length and 31 gauge). I tried taking him out of his tank to see if he would sit still, and he was like a little marble rolling around on the towel I had soaked with his tank water. So, for accuracy's sake and not wanting to hurt him, I put him in an anesthetic clove oil solution (NOT the euthanizing strength--just 10 drops or so in about 2 cups of water, I used a product I bought at a fish store called Euthanase). I waited for about 5 minutes until I could see he was asleep (gills still moving, but otherwise motionless).

I took him out, and he did move around a little once out of the solution, but not as much as before. I laid him on a towel soaked in tank water that I put on a little plastic plate I don't use for eating. I then very carefully inserted the needle in one side of his swollen belly (really anywhere would work, as long as you're not near the organs along the back or dorsal area--any point where there's obviously liquid making the stomach distend would work, since it's all fluid and there's nothing to run into), and drew out a full syringe of yellowish-clear liquid. He didn't move or give any indication that he was in pain, so I put him on his other side and did the same. I pulled out a total of 3 small syringes full of liquid, and immediately put him back into his tank, which I had treated with Marycyn Plus in order to avoid an infection at the puncture sites. The needle is so small that you can't even see where I stuck him.

He seemed stunned for a few minutes and just hung out near the water heater. But then he came around and is swimming around again, and even ate a little. I have also noticed that he's pooping again, in a matter of only an hour or so. And his eyes move again, so I know he can see better! He is a very tough little guy! He's still swollen, but not nearly as bad as before. I didn't want to go too far the first time. I know I will probably need to do this again, and keep repeating, since he's no longer getting rid of fluids on his own. I'll do it as often as necessary as long as he seems happy and is eating. I just wanted to give him a fighting chance to be comfortable and not explode! This first time was the hardest, so now I'm comfortable with having to do it again, until I know that he's no longer able to live happily. I will not euthanize him until he stops eating and swimming around.

Good luck to you if your fishy has dropsy--it's the pits, but for me, I feel better knowing I can do something to make his last weeks or months better for him.
 
Once scales stick out bad news organ failure.
Epson salt baths.
 
Once scales stick out bad news organ failure.
Epson salt baths.
Tried epsom salt baths, to no avail. I am aware that he has organ failure, which is why none of the treatments worked. He's doing very well today, and definitely looks relieved to be carrying a lighter load.

To be honest its probably kinder to euthanise him :sad:
Do you mean kinder, or easier? As I said before, I will NOT put him down until I can see that his quality of life has diminished. I would not want someone to give up on me that easily. I'm ready to give as much as I can to him until I see he's ready to go. And it's not that time yet.
 
well done for doing what you have I couldnt do all that. My rainbow boy developed dropsy but really quickly he was dead in a couple of days. I wish I was brave enough to euthanise fish but I just cant. If an animal dies on me I am so riddled with guil..t my late mums budgie died last week just fell off his perch. I have been researching illness in budgies ever since and wish I hadnt.


:good: to you I hope your fish is ok for a bit longer..
 
On another fish forum that I used to go to, if I remember right, a person had treated their betta with penicillin to get rid of dropsy. I can't remember how long it took, but I do think it did work.
I've seen penicillin medication sold at a small locally owned petstore.... so you could try finding some for him if you're determined!

Hope he gets better, or at least isn't in pain.
 
Once scales stick out bad news organ failure.
Epson salt baths.
Tried epsom salt baths, to no avail. I am aware that he has organ failure, which is why none of the treatments worked. He's doing very well today, and definitely looks relieved to be carrying a lighter load.

To be honest its probably kinder to euthanise him :sad:
Do you mean kinder, or easier? As I said before, I will NOT put him down until I can see that his quality of life has diminished. I would not want someone to give up on me that easily. I'm ready to give as much as I can to him until I see he's ready to go. And it's not that time yet.


Kinder, if you had organ failure imagine the pain you would be in. It is obviously your choice, but I dont like my fish to suffer.
 
I would think it's a tumor. We had a betta with a tumor, it was plump when we got it but over the next few months it ballooned, and eventually the scales started to stick out probably just because he was so huge. He died after a while.
 

Most reactions

Back
Top