Overstocked Still?

[jacob]

in my 75 gallon I have juvenile to medium sizes of these following fish...

2 Severums
2 Clown Loaches
2 Blue Rams
1 African Butterfly Fish
1 Common Pleco
2 Gouramies
4 Cories
3 Flying Foxes
3 Cherry Barbs

Or at least at the end of this week thats what is going to be in there...i'm for sure getting rid of a bala shark, a severum, and a tire-track eel.

Is this tank still overstocked? i would drop another severum but i don't want to overstock my dad's 125 gallon. Or do you think my lfs will have a problem taking back a 3-4" gold severum?

 

[jacob]

Click here to see the pictures of the tank and its inhabitants.

 

[Lynden]

The stocking sounds okay to me.

 

[@ombomb]

Maybe not now, but the Severums and the Clowns get big as you know,

Also the clowns should be in a group of 3+.

How big is the butterfly fish? I understand that they can be aggressive with other surface dwellers, so you may need to keep an eye on the gouramis.

Flying foxes should be one per tank really.

 

[jacob]

Maybe not now, but the Severums and the Clowns get big as you know,

Also the clowns should be in a group of 3+.

How big is the butterfly fish? I understand that they can be aggressive with other surface dwellers, so you may need to keep an eye on the gouramis.

Flying foxes should be one per tank really.

From what I understand, the butterfly fish is full grown. I've also read that they can be aggressive, but the one I have is so passive to other fish. He just floats on top and eats the brine shrimp I give him lol. As for the clown loaches, for $9 I got both of them at 2 and 3". I'm not sure how they would react to another small one as I haven't seen another one at their size for sale. And also, for fear of overstocking the tank even more I held back on getting a 3rd even though they are one of the most awesome fish I own. Yeah, I know it's not overstocked at the moment because of the size of the fish, I'm more-so planning to have the right amount of fish for when they all get older they have the room they require.

 

[jacob]

Oh! I have another question too...why is it that I always hear about people with 50 or 75 gallon tanks that have 5 or more severums in it? I'm not saying you are all wrong, I completely agree with you, It's overstocked even with my two.

 

[Katchan]

Sounds Ok-ish at the moment , when the pleco and loaches get larger the rams are going to be very out of sorts. The cories shouldnt have as much problems because their not really a territorial fish.

@ombomb, multiple flying foxes pertank is fine they dont have the bad "rep" the their cousins red tails and red fins.

 

[jacob]

Out of sorts...what do you mean by this exactly? Haha sorry I'm just trying to make sure I'm not taking in what you are saying wrong.

 

[Katchan]

By out of sorts I mean varying between moderate to high stress! I have a pair of convicts (male 3.5", female 3") in a 55G they fine with my 6"+ pleco most of the time they are fine but when their breeding boy dont they get stressed trying to keep the pleco out, now they pack a bit more punch (by body weight mainly but in attitude as well) than a ram, so see the picture?

Andrew

 

[jacob]

Yeah, I get what your saying...I've been having a lot of problems with rams anyway as in I can't keep them alive. I had 4 but over the course of about 3 months 2 of them died.

 

[CobraGuppyMAD]

same rams are quite hard to keep, with the overstocking I think that the clown loaches might cause a problem when they grow big

 

[Ginge]

What are the dimentions of that tank it doesnt look 75G to me it only looks 3ft

 

[jacob]

I don't remember what the dimensions are exactly and I don't have a tape measure handy, but I can guarantee to you that it is a 75 gallon.

 

[@ombomb]

@ombomb, multiple flying foxes pertank is fine they dont have the bad "rep" the their cousins red tails and red fins.

If you are talking about Siamese Flying Foxes (aka Siamese Algae Eaters) I completely agree with you, however if it's a true Flying Fox (Epalzeorhynchus Kalopterus) it should be 1 per tank.

Taken from this website: http/www.aquaworldnet.com/awmag/siamusa.htm

Its behavior and requirements much resemble its two close relatives, the Red-tailed Shark and the Rainbow Shark (Epalzeorhynchus bicolor and E. frenatus), which are known to be aggressive. It is a loner, which can similarly defend its own territory aggressively. It will harass all fishes which have similar appearance, including for example Black Neon Tetras.

Taken from this website: http/www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html

Flying Fox can be kept in a community tank, but it might chase other fish viciously from its territory. There shouldn't be more than one adult Flying Fox in a tank.

 

[diademhill]

I don't remember what the dimensions are exactly and I don't have a tape measure handy, but I can guarantee to you that it is a 75 gallon.

Humour us - measure the tank please.