Our Babies Have Finally Arrived!

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After many days of watching and wondering, my lovely female platy has finally dropped her fry! We aren't sure how many are hiding in the tank itself, as she started having them before I could get her in the breeding net, but she was just released back into the water after a long 3 hours in the nets, leaving behind 10 fry, all of which are actively swimming and exploring :) This is great news considering the horrible pH tank crash she went through last week. :)
 
Please, there is no need to stress a birthing female by moving her to a small and exposed environment.. it is best to leave her in the main tank or move her off to a separate tank a week earlier. She can actually die from the stress or birthing complications as a direct result of being in a "breeding net" or being moved.
 
congrats on the little ones!!! soon you'll be over run! start thinking what you are going to do with them all now! i have to figure out where mine are going to go as well. its fun the first couple months, then u realize its going to be over populated in no time!

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Please, there is no need to stress a birthing female by moving her to a small and exposed environment.. it is best to leave her in the main tank or move her off to a separate tank a week earlier. She can actually die from the stress or birthing complications as a direct result of being in a "breeding net" or being moved.
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/253113-how-to-know-if-your-livebearers-ready-to-drop-fry-updated-150410/ Being told by you not to put her in the net/trap is pretty contradictory to what I learned in the forum, which is where I took advice on how to save the babies. You might message this person and tell him he is giving bad advice to newbies....oh and the momma is fine. I checked on her periodically throughout the night because I have also read that it is not uncommon for livebearers to die after giving birth anyway. :)

congrats on the little ones!!! soon you'll be over run! start thinking what you are going to do with them all now! i have to figure out where mine are going to go as well. its fun the first couple months, then u realize its going to be over populated in no time!

:good:
Well, this is the one time where I will trap babies and encourage survival because our last baby died in a pH crash. After I determine how many of these ten will survive I will raise them and add them to the community tank. After this drop, it will be in gods good humor. I don't intend on saving as I don't have the money to upgrade my tank again lol
 
Please, there is no need to stress a birthing female by moving her to a small and exposed environment.. it is best to leave her in the main tank or move her off to a separate tank a week earlier. She can actually die from the stress or birthing complications as a direct result of being in a "breeding net" or being moved.
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/253113-how-to-know-if-your-livebearers-ready-to-drop-fry-updated-150410/ Being told by you not to put her in the net/trap is pretty contradictory to what I learned in the forum, which is where I took advice on how to save the babies. You might message this person and tell him he is giving bad advice to newbies....oh and the momma is fine. I checked on her periodically throughout the night because I have also read that it is not uncommon for livebearers to die after giving birth anyway. :)
Hun, that is a thread about how to tell when a female is about to drop, not about best conditions for females to drop in :) Nothing contradictory there. I would really love to see if you did have someone telling you that a small, bare, floating container is the best place for a pregnant fish to be, because that really would be absurd and require some correcting. The advice given by the OP seems sound, especially about not netting out pregnant females. The OP is also providing a better than average environment by adding plants to the box, to make the female feel more secure. If you want an example of what I consider to be a "good" environment for females who are about to birth and which is also on this forum and not by me, look at http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/285369-molly-full-cycle/

The only reason it is not uncommon for livebearers to die during birthing is because it is not uncommon for them to be put into a really bad environment during birthing. From my own experience breeding livebearers in a relaxing environment for the female, only about 1 in 10000 birthings is not smooth. In practice, more like 1/5-10 female livebearers die during birthing. Yes, out of 1000s of birthings I have observed in my own fish, only one 5 year old female died during the actual birthing and she was dropping fry in lots of 150-200 by that age.. which is quite understandable why she died.

Basically, I have told you how to improve the life of your fish, and given you the reasoning for what I said. I recommend you think about it and do some more research. I can not and will not influence every person in the world who I think is doing something wrong, but I will give advice to a few, like you, on what I think is better.

Another thing I did forget to mention earlier is that the fry will not grow that well in one of those things because of the lack of swimming space, water circulation and they tend to get quite dirty.
 
Please, there is no need to stress a birthing female by moving her to a small and exposed environment.. it is best to leave her in the main tank or move her off to a separate tank a week earlier. She can actually die from the stress or birthing complications as a direct result of being in a "breeding net" or being moved.
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/253113-how-to-know-if-your-livebearers-ready-to-drop-fry-updated-150410/ Being told by you not to put her in the net/trap is pretty contradictory to what I learned in the forum, which is where I took advice on how to save the babies. You might message this person and tell him he is giving bad advice to newbies....oh and the momma is fine. I checked on her periodically throughout the night because I have also read that it is not uncommon for livebearers to die after giving birth anyway. :)
Hun, that is a thread about how to tell when a female is about to drop, not about best conditions for females to drop in :) Nothing contradictory there. I would really love to see if you did have someone telling you that a small, bare, floating container is the best place for a pregnant fish to be, because that really would be absurd and require some correcting. The advice given by the OP seems sound, especially about not netting out pregnant females. The OP is also providing a better than average environment by adding plants to the box, to make the female feel more secure. If you want an example of what I consider to be a "good" environment for females who are about to birth and which is also on this forum and not by me, look at http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/285369-molly-full-cycle/

The only reason it is not uncommon for livebearers to die during birthing is because it is not uncommon for them to be put into a really bad environment during birthing. From my own experience breeding livebearers in a relaxing environment for the female, only about 1 in 10000 birthings is not smooth. In practice, more like 1/5-10 female livebearers die during birthing. Yes, out of 1000s of birthings I have observed in my own fish, only one 5 year old female died during the actual birthing and she was dropping fry in lots of 150-200 by that age.. which is quite understandable why she died.

Basically, I have told you how to improve the life of your fish, and given you the reasoning for what I said. I recommend you think about it and do some more research. I can not and will not influence every person in the world who I think is doing something wrong, but I will give advice to a few, like you, on what I think is better.

Another thing I did forget to mention earlier is that the fry will not grow that well in one of those things because of the lack of swimming space, water circulation and they tend to get quite dirty.
I have a 10 gallon tank that they will be moving to. Trust me, I will not be raising them in that little net. The net itself though, wasn't a very small on, roughly about 10 inches long, 7 inches wide, and 8 inches tall. Even had hooks for some plants for the babies. I looked at a few traps before deciding on this one based on her size. I saw some really tiny ones, and almost said forget the whole idea. I didn't even put her in the net until she started dropping fry in the tank. The tank they will be going will be ready today. Also, in that forum that I read, he explained how he coxed the female into the net and that she shouldnt be in there more than 48 hours. I prefer to look at how people have done it and go off of that, rather than read a book and I have seen lots of sites and reading that indicate that it is safe to do it that way. I only had her in the net for a short period of time, because when she started having the babies the rest of the tank went on a feeding frenzy. I wanted to save some of the babies. Unfortunatly at the time of her pregnancy the other tank was not ready for her and the conditions of that tank at the time would have been more hurtful to her than a couple of hours in the breeding net. Just my personal opinion. I try to look in the best interest of my fish, even if it may not be the complete best thing, there is a reason. I'm actually quite surprised she had living babies considering she almost died while pregnant when the pH in the other tank skyrocketed. But she is alive and well and so are the babies. So am pleased with this. After this drop, I do plan on allowing her the priveledge of having babies in the natural environment as I do not have the room to accomadate every drop that she has. It will then be up to nature to select the strong ones. I know this sounds morbid, but its the best I can do at this time. But just so you know, I do have a fry tank that is almost ready and they will be moving there today :)
 
I've never seen those things in that big, automatic assumption it's the ones which almost put you off them! It's great to see that you've thought everything through :good: have fun with all the babies!
 
I've never seen those things in that big, automatic assumption it's the ones which almost put you off them! It's great to see that you've thought everything through :good: have fun with all the babies!
Yeah I'm sorry, I should have probably put all the specs in place before I made the announcement. And i hope I didn't come off rude, i really wasn't trying. i am in the process of doing water changes now on my 10 gallon so that i can move babies out of the net. Cause yeah, overnight, I can see the the filtration isn't great. It was a temp solution. I do thank you though for the advice, and I really hope i didnt come off rude or offputting. I truly was not trying to be ( i looked back at my wording and realized it may have not come off the way i meant it to ) :)
 

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