One Filter System For Fish Room - Cheap Heating?

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My partner and I are considering setting up a small fish room in our outdoor store (part of the house still though so not too bad on insulation) to breed bristlenoses of various types as we're finding we're wanting more BNs than we can put in our tank!

The main thing is the electricity bill though - is there a way to heat, light and filter a stack of say, 6 x 2ft tanks, all together and therefore save on electricity?
I was thinking something along the lines of putting a heater in a large filtration unit, but would this work?
I know that fish stores do this but have no idea what equipment is required for such a system and how to set it up and whether it uses less electricity. I don't really want to have to run a separate internala on each tank!

I'm a complete filtration dummy at the best of times so I would be really grateful if anyone could link to some online guides or take me through the options step-by-step.

Thanks in advance.
 
For fresh water tanks where live plants aren't a concern heat is your biggest expense in most cases. Where I'm at it's cheaper to heat a house with natural gas than electricity. If your place is the same consider running a good size heat duct to that area.

Insulation is always an item that pays for itself in the long run, consider upgrading the insulation of this area if it isn't already well insulated. You will get the best efficiency in a well insulated and sealed room with enough room to work the tanks & that's it.

Lights in a setup where there are no live plants are more for the fishkeeper than anything. Fish get by just fine with room light. This is where you can save, a light on every tank is for show, not breeding or growing out.

Ten 100w heaters will use just as much electricity as one 1,000w heater heating the same tanks in the same area. Having all the tanks in a shop on one common system keeps heaters & filters out of the tank, better looking for sales. It's also easier to do one large water change on the sump they are connected to than to change water on individual tanks. The sump, which contains the heaters & filter media also adds to the water capacity of the system, a 40 gallon tank with 10 gallons of sump has the actual water capacity of a 50 gallon tank, and can be stocked as such.

The problems with several tanks on one system using a sump for filtration are transfer of disease from tank to tank, all the tanks are the same temperature, as well as other water parameters. The ease of maintenance & cleaner look does have its downsides.

Most breeders, including myself, will have the need to have different temperatures and such in tanks, as well as using tanks for quar from time to time. This being the case, the best solution is an air powered filtration system, operating off of one large pump,running pvc with pipe valves around the room. Keeping the room at a warmer temperature with gas forced air keeps run time on each heater to a minimum. Heat rises, keep cooler water species towards the bottom, warmer in the upper tanks.

Another issue is evaporation & condensation in a fishroom. Forget those pre-made hoods with the lights, with the large slot towards the back. You are losing water through evaporation, and heat by exposing the water to cooler air. If you really are packing the tanks in you will have to consider some sort of ventilation, as the humid air will condense on cooler surfaces, creating a mold issue. I’ve seen structural damage in a huge long running operation that didn’t take this into consideration.

Over the years I’ve taken ideas from many other people’s fishrooms, redone mine several times, and still have projects in the works. My fishroom was roughed out at 8’x16’, insulated, drywalled, & painted with a gloss paint. I cut a register into the main trunk of my forced air heat system, this heats the room. When summer comes this register gets pulled, an insulated piece of plywood gets screwed over it, aquatics is usually slow in the summer, tanks get drained.

Filtration is provided by an 85lpm linear air pump, all sponge & box filtration’ pvc with pipe valves run around the room. I use light diffuser panels for tank covers, these seal well, let light in, and are cheap. Light is minimal, a couple of cans with dimmers in the drop ceiling, small flouro fixtures over a couple of tanks. I have a clamp light with an extension for working on tanks. I mentioned evaporation, a bath fan on a timer leading to a dryer vent in one of the glass blocks keeps humidity down.

Another thing to take into consideration is ease of maintenance. Tanks closer together with enough room to work without wasted space means less motion, more efficiency. This in many ways has to be planned around you own physical size & capabilities. Someone who weighs 300 pounds won’t be able to move much in my fishroom, someone who is 5’2” won’t be able to reach the back of most of the tanks. Consider your water supply & waste water removal, keep them as close as possible. I ran hot & cold to my fishroom some time ago, as well as have most of my tanks drilled with overflows for water changes. The drilling & drainage is still a work in progress, several tanks yet to drill, as well as digging through the concrete floor to install an actual sump pump for waste water removal. A large bin & a pump work well enough for now.

Try to integrate work areas into the design as well, a few smaller areas work better than one large area that you constantly have to walk across the room for. Remember that a working fishroom is not a fish showroom, if it looks a bit cluttered but you can turn around & grab what you need it is efficient.

Holy crumb, I wrote a novel! Any more questions feel free to ask!
 
Basically what you're looking for is a central wet/dry or sump filter. This is a great way to filter a rack of tanks, but it does have its drawbacks.
You will need a good quarantine tank and procedure. Remember, with a central filter, if you have a breakout of ich or any kind of disease, it will spread to every tank on that central filter. So make sure to quarrentine any new additions.
 
Basically what you're looking for is a central wet/dry or sump filter. This is a great way to filter a rack of tanks, but it does have its drawbacks.
You will need a good quarantine tank and procedure. Remember, with a central filter, if you have a breakout of ich or any kind of disease, it will spread to every tank on that central filter. So make sure to quarrentine any new additions.


Were it me, I would as has been mentioned,,, use large air pump and sponge filters in all tanks. Pvc above tanks with outlets installed to attach air line tubing. that way, less chance of disease being transported or introduced to all tanks sharing same filtration.
 
As long as you quarrentine your new additions, you will have nothing to worry about. Also, a lot of central filtration systems incorporate the addition of a UV filter. The UV will prevent any future outbreaks of anything.
I use a blower and sponges for my grow out racks, but then again, I don't need heaters where I live (its 78F all year round). Using a single blower and sponges, will not eliminate the need for individual heaters in each tank.
 
Its ok saying...disease travels fast in a central system....(which granted it does) But even with sponge filters it doesn't always make that much of a difference.... Lets face it who has a fish net for every tank? (not me) who washes their hands between tanks? who is a bit hasty and sometimes fish, bogwood, caves, rocks need moving fast....so they go into the next tank? The best advice I can give is ...buy from breeders or even ebay....the fish are in so much better condition than you get at fish shops...most fish shops dont care...and wont tell you that they had a mass outbreak of white spot last week....or even that 2 days ago the entire shop was wiped out by colmmunaris and they are showing you fresh stock waiting to die. If you buy fish without disease ...and your good with the water (including temps) then chances are your fish room will be disease free.

Regards
Mark
 
I've probably got a net for every three tanks, I'll bet there are 10 nets hanging around the fishroom. Nets are cheaper then meds or replacing stock. I'll have several tanks going through quar at times, yes, they get their own individual equipment, which is rinsed in a bleach/water solution & left to dry after use. A good habit to get into is to work quar or sick tanks last, this way there is no reason to go to a tank that is not going through quar.

At times decorations, heaters, filters and such will get in the way. Toss them in a bucket. If you have a lot of tanks you will have a stack of buckets, numerous nets, hoses, disinfectant for equipment, beyond what the casual fishkeeper with a few tanks will have.

Breeders are the best source for fish, I can't remember the last time I bought fish from a shop.
 

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