Oh No My Poor Rummynoses

[sneezy]

They have been in hiding since I got them on friday. I lost 2 in the first 24hrs.

Well they came out at feeding time today manically grabbing at food but they are sooooooooooooooooo dark - some resembled my black gravel. they are obviously mega stressed. the sunken bellies I described yesterday appear to be gone but they just have no colour.

What can I do to help them.

Would it be worth moving my rocks about and even removing some plants so they cannot hide or would that distress them further.

Black neons are still hunky dorey and stats still the same.

This is my tank

and this is where they hide behind

Many Thanks

 

[Miss Wiggle]

it's very strange what's happening here sneezy, do you have a spare hospital/quarantine tank at all? if you do i'd try removing the neons to there and see what the rummynoses do with the tank to themselves after a day or so. or perhaps bodge together some sort of tank divider so the two species are separated.

i would start thinking about medication now, tricky with no symptoms to go on apart from hiding away, perhaps try a general anti-bac treatment?

 

[rabbut]

Aye, loss of colour, hiding away and un-explained deaths can be bacterial An anti-internal bacterial med would possibly eleviate sysmptoms, though TBH I'm still not 100% convinced that it is needed yet...

Sitting on it will possible make things worse if you wait, where as treating for bacteria when there isn't an issue may also do more harm than good... Tough call for you to make.

All the best
Rabbut

 

[Miss Wiggle]

Aye, loss of colour, hiding away and un-explained deaths can be bacterial An anti-internal bacterial med would possibly eleviate sysmptoms, though TBH I'm still not 100% convinced that it is needed yet...

Sitting on it will possible make things worse if you wait, where as treating for bacteria when there isn't an issue may also do more harm than good... Tough call for you to make.

All the best
Rabbut

same here, tricky one tbh........ not convinced of a diagnosis at all, but there comes a point when things don't improve that you need to start taking action and doing something for fear of leaving it too long.

tough call

 

[Colin_T]

Check the water quality. If the fish came from acid water and went into alkaline water it would stress them. Also if there is any ammonia, nitrite or nitrate that would stress them out. The fish that were in the tank while it developed any sort of readings would have adapted to it but fish that aren't use to it would freak.
Put something on the back of the tank. That will add sevurity to it and make the fish feel better.

 

[sneezy]

oK MAY HAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION.

sorry caps

i've had a ph crash. from 8.2 - 7.4. Although 8.2 is high it was exactly the same as the lfs and they are all locally bred so it is the ph they are used to.

I put some PRIME in yesterday that the lfs gave me. Could this be the cause.

Will a 30% water change bring it up again.

I now have a neon which keeps going nose down.

ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!! I do a f/l cycle and still my fish are ill.

 

[rabbut]

A drop of 0.6 isn't too bad, certainly nothing I'd worry about at this time, unless it is moving. Check again in the morning and compair it to a sample of water from tonight. If they are different, you have your pH in swing. If this is the case, we need to find out why. If it isn't, we need to look for other caurses

All the best
Rabbut

 

[sneezy]

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

have posted on emergency

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=247474

*cries*