nitrates too low?? 5ppm. lowest yet :(

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I posted a while back about my nitrates possibly being a problem. At the time I thought I'd do water changes less often...so have been doing them every 2 weeks for the last 4 weeks. Tested today (did water change on Sunday). My nitrates are 5ppm!!!!!!! Lowest yet. :grr:

Are my plants eating them all up do you think? Is it time to start adding ferts with nitrates in. I'm scared of adding nitrates cos I'm suffering from algae as it is.

On a side note...got my 2nd nutrafin co2 unti in post :D Have just squeezed it in so they are both on the right hand side 'wall'.
 
hmmmm I was dreading this EI thing. Looks technical to me. Will have a read though.
 
Doesn't look too complex, but from the looks of things you don't get s single night off!

Going to try a Kent Grow / Kent Fe / Kent Nitro+ combination out and see how that gets on, for a few weeks.
 
@ombomb said:
Doesn't look too complex, but from the looks of things you don't get s single night off!

Going to try a Kent Grow / Kent Fe / Kent Nitro+ combination out and see how that gets on, for a few weeks.
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LOL.....your planted tank is like your little baby, and little babys dont give you a night off :D
 
Doesn't look too complex, but from the looks of things you don't get s single night off!

Going to try a Kent Grow / Kent Fe / Kent Nitro+ combination out and see how that gets on, for a few weeks.
I don't get a single night off as it is with 2 rabbits and a boyfriend to look after!

I use kent grow and kent fe, as recommended by Jimbooo (I had no iron whatsoever before). And my nitrates and phosphates were better before I started.

Seriously though, how much of your time do you think you spend doing these dry ferts, Zig? I want a good planted tank, but I'm not sure I'm good enough to stick to a strict regime.
 
houndour said:
Doesn't look too complex, but from the looks of things you don't get s single night off!

Going to try a Kent Grow / Kent Fe / Kent Nitro+ combination out and see how that gets on, for a few weeks.
I don't get a single night off as it is with 2 rabbits and a boyfriend to look after!

I use kent grow and kent fe, as recommended by Jimbooo (I had no iron whatsoever before). And my nitrates and phosphates were better before I started.

Seriously though, how much of your time do you think you spend doing these dry ferts, Zig? I want a good planted tank, but I'm not sure I'm good enough to stick to a strict regime.
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Once you get the chemicals and have them mixed up into a solution it makes things a lot easier, its just like adding any liquid fertiliser, only takes a minute or so each day.

In the beginning you will do lots of tests probably for the first few weeks just to double check you are on the right track, and not under or overdoing it, after several weeks of this method i now only test occeasionally maybe 2-3 times a week and more times than not i probably knew the tank was ok anyway, but tested just in case, i would imagine in another month or so i will probably do very little testing unless i make dramatic changes to the tank and change its balance.

So once you have the learning curve under your belt, its alot easier, only a minute or so each day, but you must do 50% water changes each week to reset the tank, and i suppose thats the only real chore especially if you have a bigger tank.

But dont forget that a few of us a useing this method now and that will make it a lot easier for you in the beginning as somebody will be able to guide you if you get stuck.

The other advantage of the method is that if you encounter problems useing EI alls you have to do is post your test results and almost immeaditaly just by looking at them others sould be able to point you in the right direction.

But it isnt that difficult, once you have your fertiliseing regime setup, you just follow that, testing occeasionally, and myself and others will be able to work that out for you, or show you how to work it out yourself.

A good example of how good the method is, is your current problem of low nitrates, with EI you could solve the problem within a couple of days by adding KNO3 Potassium nitrate, the EI method would allow you to just top up your nitrates every couple of days, and by doing this you would be able to keep your nitrate level in the 10ppm range, its what we all do to keep our nitrates at the correct levels, and its really that simple, just like adding any liquid fertiliser, but the beauty is that you can control it.

Anyway enough lectureing, but it does work but i suppose a little bit harder in the beginning, but thats what the forum is for if you get stuck.
 
Have you got any photos of you tank Zig? Be nice to hve a look as you really seem to know your stuff!
 
Yeah i *seem* to know my stuff, thats probably the key word, ive kept aquariums for a good few years but only recently took up planted tanks, but its been mainly with the help from more experienced people here that i know what i know, just learnt through research etc, but mainly from this forum, its all here, i suppose you just have to read through all the threads, but the guys here have been a major part of it they have been great.

Heres some pics of my first effort posted not so long ago in the picture area.

Planted tank
 
Thanks Zig...OK you've sold me. I started reading up on the EI stuff at lunch but only got half way thru the doc, so will print it off and take to bed I think :) I'm sure I will have lots of questions once I;ve read it. I've not got to any part yet that tells you how to figure out how much to add...but I vaguely remember seeing a link to a calculator of some sort....oh yeah I remember...it was to be downloaded onto windows. will take a look in a minute.

2nd CO2 unit did bugger all with the supplied sachet :( have put my own mixture in now...hopefully I'll have 30 ppm by tomorrow night :D I'm really confident that this is going to help lots.

Thanks again...
 
houndour, fancy trying the EI route together...? It would be quite nice to have someone to go along the learning curve with...?
 
definitely...have you bought your stuff yet? I haven't. Didn't know whether to get the small bags to start with. I'm just printing off that website you posted in jimbooos post. People say it's easy, but I'm confused as hell at the moment!

I'm going to try and read it properly tonight so that I have a million questions tomorrow :) Maybe we can start a new post to record our progress of the EI? Would maybe help other people too.
 
houndour said:
definitely...have you bought your stuff yet? I haven't. Didn't know whether to get the small bags to start with. I'm just printing off that website you posted in jimbooos post. People say it's easy, but I'm confused as hell at the moment!

I'm going to try and read it properly tonight so that I have a million questions tomorrow :) Maybe we can start a new post to record our progress of the EI? Would maybe help other people too.
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GREAT! :D

No, I haven't bought anything yet, in fact have only just read Georges post on where and what to buy! I read all the way through the Ei article earlier today, but if I'm honest, began to lose the lot a little at the very end... :*)

I think a new, dedicated thread sounds like a winner!
 
Stunning!

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excellent! makes it more bareable going ahead with it knowing there's someone else to help you along the way.
 

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