Nitrate Remover

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Hi... Correct me if im wrong, but very low levels of Nitrate = better fish growth and fin development. Does that just apply to 'Growin Out' fry ?? Or would very low levels of Nirate help juvies grow quicker too ?? Or maybe better fin development in adults ?? Or are Adults to far grown for Nitrate to stunt their growth ??

Would i be silly to expect better growth and fin development by adding some Nitrate Remover to a tank of young/adult fish ??

What are the Pros and Cons of Nitrate removers ??.. obviously a Pro is the removal of Nitrates, but what are the cons ??

Thanks.
 
NitrAte removers are pretty redundant IMO, the best way to keep nitrAte down is by water changes, the fish will grow healthier with frequent water changes rather than adding something to remove nitrAte from the water.

Save yourself some money and dont buy these products, if your growing out fry or just want your fish to have good fin growth etc, the best thing for them is nice clean fresh water :good:
 
Yes low levels of ammonia, nitrite & nitrate do help fish fry to grow better.
Good fin development is more about clean water reducing disease organisms, and the genetic make up of the fish involved.
fish fry & young fish should be kept in clean water until they are mature to prevent stunted growth. When they are adults they will be fully grown (or close to it) and they should no longer be growing their fins. Low nitrates are better for all fish but more important to young fish.

Having nitrate removers in the filter/ tank will only help keep the nitrates down. This will help the fish do better but won't necessarily help them grow any faster. Fry grow best when kept warm, are well fed, and have clean water. Daily water changes are the best thing for growing fish fast because it dilutes nutrients, helps keep the PH stabile, dilutes disease organisms, and dilutes hormones that are released by the growing fry.
Although nitrate removers help by keeping the nitrates low, they don't do anything for the other points, in particular the hormones from the baby fish. Carbon can be used for this purpose but should be replaced regularly.

What are the Pros and Cons of Nitrate removers?
Pros, low nitrates
Cons, can be expensive

There are de-nitrating filters that cost a bit to buy but are cheaper to maintain in the long run. They work like a biological filter but become anaerobic instead of aerobic. Tank water flows through them very slowly and the bacteria eat the nitrates and convert them into nitrogen gas that then gets expelled from the water.
However, as mentioned, plants do a great job at removing nitrates. Fast growing surface plants like Water Sprite and duckweed do a great job at sucking up nutrients. If you remove some of the plants on a regular basis you then remove the nutrients from the tank and lower the nitrates.
Water changes are a very effective way to lower nitrates unless you have nitrates in the tap water. Then you are fighting a losing battle and need to use plants or de-nitrating filters.
 
I'm not sure how important relatively low levels of nitrate are on fish growth.

Most of the studies into fish is into farmed fish species. The way many studies identified that small amounts of ammonia or nitrite present caused issues was from the reduced growth rate of fish against the control, indicating that there is an issue with the lower levels.

No short or long term effects have been noticed in nitrates on fish below 400ppm, indicating that under this level there should not be a great difference between (say) 20 and 40ppm nitrates.

On the flip side, some fish are noted as having a lower acceptance of nitrates in the water when fry (for example they may start to die at 400 to 600ppm instead of 1,300ppm) so the issue is far from clear.

I personally feel that nitrates are not a great problem in our tanks but rather they are an indicator for something else that can cause woes. As such, I would advocate water changes on fry tanks over nitrate reducing.
 
Yes low levels of ammonia, nitrite & nitrate do help fish fry to grow better.
Sorry, poison helps fry to grow???
Sorry that didn'treally come out right. It was meant to be something along the lines of having as little ammonia, nitrite & nitrate as possible is better for the fish compared to higher levels. Looking back on the way it was written it looks like I am advocating having some reading of it. And we don't want any ammonia or nitrite and as little nitrate as possible for all fish, including growing fry.
 

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