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markinatlanta

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Figured I'd turn to the experts 
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In a fairly tall 37.5 gallon (new) tank I have 3 black skirt tetras, 3 zebra dannios, and 5 white mountain minnows.
What would be the next school you'd go with, and why?
Goal is just to build out a diverse tank, with diff kinds to interest my young kids
 
The first thing I'd do is boost the number of your skirts.  They will act much more interestingly in a larger number - say at least 6 up to 9.
 
 
I also hate to mention this, but zebra danios aren't really appropriate, despite their small size because they are extremely active swimmers.  And the WCMM are a temperate, rather than a "tropical" fish - so they don't really fit with a tropical set-up.
 
 
For young kids, livebearers are a great option, very active, very colorful, and they don't need tons of individuals to be "content".  Platies come in several color morphs, which will keep the interest of the young ones, yet give them some interesting contrast to "similar" fish.  Platys come in red, orange, blue and some with black.  Mollys also come in multiple color morphs, yellow, silver, black, dalmation.   Then there are swordtails, which are very similar to platies (and they interbreed with them).   Then there is the guppy and/or endler's which come in another array of colors.
 
 
Each of these can be kept in groups of 3 (you seem to like that number) males (best to keep single genders unless you want a ton of fry that you can't get rid of).
 
If it were my tank (easy for me to say, because my kids aren't attached to any of these fish)... I'd do this:
 
6 black skirt tetras
3 male platies - whatever colors are most interesting to you - BTW, there are a few different color morphs of a "mickey mouse platy".
3 male guppies - Again, whatever color you find most interesting.
3 male endlers - slightly different look and a real challenge for your kids to spot the difference between the guppies and endlers.
6 corydoras - good active bottom dwellers, that will give interest to the bottom portion of the tank.  (They prefer a sand substrate, and watching them sift sand through their gills in search of food is just fascinating to me.  Here's an example of what I am talking about - 2012 Fish of the Year.  This fish is about 1.5 inches long - panda corydoras.)
 
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i would say have 6 cories on the bottom for movement there.... then rummynose tetras are always cool to have. really depends on what you are going for.
 
Thanks eaglesaquairium!
- why is/are dannios being active swimmers a problem?
- would another type of tetra be substitutable, vs adding more black skirt?
- would gravel substrate (no sand) rule out corydoras?
 
tiger barbs are great! they are very nice looking fish but you should keep them in schools of 6 or more. i have 6 of my own and they are very fun to watch! they can be a little nippy though so the more you have the better. :)
 
markinatlanta said:
Thanks eaglesaquairium!
- why is/are dannios being active swimmers a problem?
- would another type of tetra be substitutable, vs adding more black skirt?
- would gravel substrate (no sand) rule out corydoras?
 
1 - danios are really active - they like to shoot around at high speeds and are best in large groups in a long tank (6 feet).  Its like keeping a cheetah in a 10 foot cage.  Sure, it can live there, but you'll never see its true nature in that environment.  Also, in smaller enclosures they can become a bit more 'snarky'.
 
2 - tetras are shoaling fish that live in groups in the hundreds to thousands in nature, and these fish generally are rather stressed when they are in small groups, because they feel more vulnerable.  6 is generally the accepted number (not saying that it is true or not) for when they start to exhibit more shoaling behavior.  Some folks will mention that last survivors from a group joined up and shoaled with another group of fish in their tank, but its not "ideal".
 
3 - corys prefer sand (or exhibit more interesting behavior on sand) but they aren't ruled out by gravel.  As long as the gravel is rounded, they will be fine on it, just not as busy shuffling around with their 'snouts' in the sand. 
 
Thanks. On #2 I was asking would multiple 'types' of tetras school together i.e. if 6 is a good number, could it be 3 of one type and 3 of another?
 
Not necessarily.  It is best to keep all the same species.  If you have multiple species they may splinter off and stay separate, and feel stressed, or they may join together... hard to tell.
 
 
If you are looking for variety, honestly, its best to stick to "non-shoaling" species.
 
Thanks then, good info.
Any particular non-shoaling species to recommend, anyone?
 
Livebearers, gouramis, angelfish, ram cichlids,
 
dwarf gourami, german rams


eaglesaquarium said:
Livebearers, gouramis, angelfish, ram cichlids,
You beat me to it!  :)

Just make sure if you do livebearers that you stick with males... they are more beautiful anyways and you don't want to be over run with babies.
 

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