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hi all

im starting to get bored of my planted tank and am thinking of changing to a Cichlid tank.

my tanks a 40 uk gallon (185 litres) after allowing for 2 inches of gravel)

a few questions i have

1) what are the difference between the species? (african/hap/Tanganyikan/Peacock)

2) im assuing that the above cannot be kept together (as in species)

3) lighting. how many watts should i have for a 40 uk gallon tank (185 litres) and what tubes/are the certian tubes that are better?

4) filtration. at the moment i have a Eheim 2224 Professionel is this enough? (its designed for a 250 litre tank) or should i add my spare Eheim 2232 Ecco (rated at 100 litres) to help out?

5) rocks. is there a guidline as to how much/many i should have?

sorry for the long post
chris
 
1. african - come from africa
hap - ?
Tanganyikan - Fish that come from that lake.
Peacock - ?
2. I don't think you're meant to mix them.
3. I know that Mbuna prefer low light.
4. With Mbuna you need as much filtration as you can get.
5. With Mbuna you need lots of rocks.
 
I'm not really an expert in this area, but as a person who has often wondered about starting up a Rift Lake Tank, I can tell you what I've found out over the years.

1) what are the difference between the species? (african/hap/Tanganyikan/Peacock)
These aren't different species but refer to different "type groups" of many species. African obviously refers to any cichlid from Africa, but is most commonly used in shops as a lump term for unidentified Mbuna. It's generally recommended to stay away from any fish sold as an "Asst. African Cichlid". Haps is short for Haplochromis and refers to more open-water fish found in Lake Malawi. Peacocks are similar to Haps in origin but differ in behavior, I believe. Unfortunately I'm not really familiar enough with these two groups to help explain further. Tanganyikan cichlids are all from Lake Tanganyika and include several type groups (much like the Mbuna/Hap/Peacock divisions found in Lake Malawi.)

2) im assuing that the above cannot be kept together (as in species)
Because each of these groups have very different behaviors, dietary needs and aggression levels, it is generally not recommended to mix them. However, that does not mean that all Haps are necessarily compatible with all other Haps. Compatibility can really only be assessed on a species-by-species basis, and even then you should expect some variation between individual fish.

3) lighting. how many watts should i have for a 40 uk gallon tank (185 litres) and what tubes/are the certian tubes that are better?
Again, this will somewhat depend on your fish. If you're keeping deep-water species, then the typical came-with-the-tank lighting setup should be fine. If you're keeping algae grazers (like most Mbuna), then you may want to invest in some more intense lighting to help foster algae growth in your tank. All that being said, since it's very difficult to keep anything other than African riverine cichlids in a planted tank, lighting is really not a critical aspect.

4) filtration. at the moment i have a Eheim 2224 Professionel is this enough? (its designed for a 250 litre tank) or should i add my spare Eheim 2232 Ecco (rated at 100 litres) to help out?
Let's see... The 2224 Pro has an output of 700 lph and the 2232 Ecco has an output of 400 lph. Your tank is 185 liters and for most fish-keeping, you'll want to circulate ~3x the tank volume per hour. Since you would only want a minimum of ~550 lph in that case, the 2224 Pro should be good enough unless you go with a Mbuna tank. Since Mbuna pretty much *have* to be overstocked in order to keep down aggression and are known plant-destroyers, you'd need to put some extra filtration in that tank.

5) rocks. is there a guidline as to how much/many i should have?
I believe that the rule of thumb is to add as many rocks as you think possible and then put in 5 more. :p Again, the answer to this question is related to which type of fish you chose. Obviously, open-water fish such as Haps don't need as many hiding places but rock-dwelling Mbuna would like as many hiding spots as you can create. Then there are such oddities as the Tanganyikan shell-dwellers that need an abundance of escargot shells scattered across the tank.


In case you haven't noticed, the first question you need to ask yourself when picking out a cichlid tank is what kind of tank do you want? Do you want a planted tank? Do you want a very colorful tank with lots of large fish? Do you want a very colorful tank with lots of medium-sized fish? Do you want a very active tank? Would you be happy with a very aggressive tank? Would you enjoy a tank of not-so colorful fish that behave in very strange ways?

Next, you should ask yourself how much you are willing to spend on your tank. African cichlids can be very expensive and rare, but are also popular enough that there are plenty of common species both readily available and well-suited to a starter aquarium. Fortunately, the expensive and rare fish can be found at various club auctions for much less than in stores, but you will wind up stocking your tank in fits and starts if you take that route. But stay away from anything sold as an Assorted Cichlid! It's very difficult to accurately identify them and they're generally hybrids in any case. That makes it very difficult to predict what sort of monster that 1" cutie will become in six months. Which in turn will make it difficult for you to confidently add "nicer," more expensive cichlids as you become a more experienced keeper.

Figuring out what kind of tank you want and how much you are willing to spend will go very far in terms of figuring out how to set everything up. The last piece of advice that I can give you is to find a cichlid in either your LFS or at a online fish store that you just absolutely love and that would be suited to your tank's size. Then take that cichlid and start figuring out what tank would be best suited for that species and what other species would be compatible with it.
 
thanks

from what pica_nuttalli said

i would prefer a very colorful tank with lots of large fish or a very colorful tank with lots of medium-sized fish.

Would you be happy with a very aggressive tank - not to botherd about if they are/arnt - i have a few hospital tanks if need be


price
i have all the equipment (including an extra 100w of lighting if need be) just need the rock and substrate finely crused coral?
Obviously i need the fish wish cost alot as you say but thats apart of the hobby. basicly cost's not really an issue to a point.

fish
as above i like the colourfull ones :unsure: have a few in mind

Labidochromis caeruleus
Pseudotropheus zebra
Aulonocara jacobfreibergi
PSEUDOTROPHEUS SAULOSI

filtration
so would i be best just adding the second filter anyway?

plants in not botherd about tbh
 
Labidochromis caeruleus - excellent choice, m/f ratio doesn't matter
Pseudotropheus zebra - there are quite a few species that can fall under this name (plus there is a p.zebra species) any chance of linking to a pic where you saw this one (what I mean is that some websites will give this generic species name to several different species) 1m/3f
Aulonocara jacobfreibergi - peacock, won't be able to handle the aggression of the mbuna, not recommended
pseudotropheus salousi - another interesting species, 1m/3f

Since your tank is on the smaller end of what I would recommend for mbuna, I'd aim for 12 adults, 3 species of 4 indviduals. With the exception of the a.jocobfreibergi, and depending on the p.zebra species, what you have listed will work fine.

With mbuna tanks, it is generally recommend to have a total gph/lph of 6 times the volume of your tank or more, with these fish you can never have too much filtration.

The amount of rocks is up to you, I recommend getting them from a landscaping or garden center. It is much cheaper than buying rock from your LFS. As long as you avoid rock that has obvious metal deposits or rust, you can use any rock you like.

Substrate is also up to you, mbuna LOVE to dig, so most people use sand of some kind. I prefer aragonite sand (usually sold in the saltwater section) because it helps to buffer your water, it's very fine, and doens't compact. It is a bit more expensive, but with lots of rock work, you don't have to use as much as for a "normal" tank. Play sand and pool filter (silica) sand also work well. You can use gravel or crushed coral, however, they won't be able to dig in it as well.

Here are a couple of links I suggest you check out:
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=27706
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=98179
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=169788

Oh, and Pica_nutalli - excellent post :good:
 
Labidochromis caeruleus - excellent choice, m/f ratio doesn't matter
Pseudotropheus zebra - there are quite a few species that can fall under this name (plus there is a p.zebra species) any chance of linking to a pic where you saw this one (what I mean is that some websites will give this generic species name to several different species) 1m/3f
Aulonocara jacobfreibergi - peacock, won't be able to handle the aggression of the mbuna, not recommended
pseudotropheus salousi - another interesting species, 1m/3f

Since your tank is on the smaller end of what I would recommend for mbuna, I'd aim for 12 adults, 3 species of 4 indviduals. With the exception of the a.jocobfreibergi, and depending on the p.zebra species, what you have listed will work fine.

With mbuna tanks, it is generally recommend to have a total gph/lph of 6 times the volume of your tank or more, with these fish you can never have too much filtration.

The amount of rocks is up to you, I recommend getting them from a landscaping or garden center. It is much cheaper than buying rock from your LFS. As long as you avoid rock that has obvious metal deposits or rust, you can use any rock you like.

Substrate is also up to you, mbuna LOVE to dig, so most people use sand of some kind. I prefer aragonite sand (usually sold in the saltwater section) because it helps to buffer your water, it's very fine, and doens't compact. It is a bit more expensive, but with lots of rock work, you don't have to use as much as for a "normal" tank. Play sand and pool filter (silica) sand also work well. You can use gravel or crushed coral, however, they won't be able to dig in it as well.

Here are a couple of links I suggest you check out:
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=27706
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=98179
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=169788

Oh, and Pica_nutalli - excellent post :good:

hi thanks for the reply
the Pseudotropheus zebra im looking at is

http://www.tropicalfish4u.co.uk/acatalog/C...ra_Cichlid.html


i worked out my filtration with both the filters (eheim ecco 2232 and the pro 2224) it turned out to be 1100lph. if i times my tank volume by 6 it comes to 1110min. would this be acceptable?

so aragonite sand would be best (my ph is around 7.4 i believe so need to be abit higher)

the Labidochromis caeruleus are sold in pair at my lfs so 2m-2f would be fine
and as you said with the other two 1m-3f

my tank is about 47 inches long by 15 inches wide i assume its fine?

would i be able to squeeze a small pleco in ther eis is it not worth it? (not sure which spieces but will find out when i got to the lfs next time)

thanks
chris
 
hi thanks for the reply
the Pseudotropheus zebra im looking at is

http://www.tropicalfish4u.co.uk/acatalog/C...ra_Cichlid.html


i worked out my filtration with both the filters (eheim ecco 2232 and the pro 2224) it turned out to be 1100lph. if i times my tank volume by 6 it comes to 1110min. would this be acceptable?

so aragonite sand would be best (my ph is around 7.4 i believe so need to be abit higher)

the Labidochromis caeruleus are sold in pair at my lfs so 2m-2f would be fine
and as you said with the other two 1m-3f

my tank is about 47 inches long by 15 inches wide i assume its fine?

would i be able to squeeze a small pleco in ther eis is it not worth it? (not sure which spieces but will find out when i got to the lfs next time)

thanks
chris
Ok, pretty much like what I thought, the zebra you are looking at is actually metriaclima callainos, I've got 6 of them and they are great fish. They'll be at the top of the pecking order, and you'll definately only want 1 male, I've got two males duking it out in my 75 gal, and as soon as I can catch one of the little buggers he'll be rehomed. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=787

Your filtration should be fine. And, your tank dimension should work as well, I usually recommend a 48" long minimum, but I don't think 1-inch will make that big of a difference, and a depth of 15" will definately be appreciated.

You can add a pleco if you want, bristlenose plecos are probably the best for a mbuna tank, they stay smaller, and are tough enough to ignore the cichlids. Just remember, you'll be adding to your bioload as plecos are big poopers. Also, mbuna will graze on any algae in your tank, so you don't need a pleco for that, and unless you dump an entire food container in the tank you'll NEVER have extra food on the bottom. Mbuna are little hoovers. :lol:

Also, unless your LFS has confirmed pairs, meaning they've actually witnessed them breeding, or have vented them (which isn't always accurate either), I wouldn't be too sure that the pairs of l.caeruleus are actually pairs. They are extremely difficult to accurately sex, and sub-dominate males can easily be confused for females. Fortunately as I said before, m/f ratio doesn't matter with them.
 
Ok, pretty much like what I thought, the zebra you are looking at is actually metriaclima callainos, I've got 6 of them and they are great fish. They'll be at the top of the pecking order, and you'll definately only want 1 male, I've got two males duking it out in my 75 gal, and as soon as I can catch one of the little buggers he'll be rehomed. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=787

thanks, so 4 like you said will be fine?

good luck catching and rehoming him


Your filtration should be fine. And, your tank dimension should work as well, I usually recommend a 48" long minimum, but I don't think 1-inch will make that big of a difference, and a depth of 15" will definately be appreciated.

thats good then.
ive read about airstones, is it a good idea? does it need to be big/powerfill?


You can add a pleco if you want, bristlenose plecos are probably the best for a mbuna tank, they stay smaller, and are tough enough to ignore the cichlids. Just remember, you'll be adding to your bioload as plecos are big poopers. Also, mbuna will graze on any algae in your tank, so you don't need a pleco for that, and unless you dump an entire food container in the tank you'll NEVER have extra food on the bottom. Mbuna are little hoovers. :lol:

so not really worth it then, i thought he/she would help with the cleaning up but as you said my hoover chiclids will do that

Also, unless your LFS has confirmed pairs, meaning they've actually witnessed them breeding, or have vented them (which isn't always accurate either), I wouldn't be too sure that the pairs of l.caeruleus are actually pairs. They are extremely difficult to accurately sex, and sub-dominate males can easily be confused for females. Fortunately as I said before, m/f ratio doesn't matter with them.

ok, they have them in a tank of about 10 and said pairs for x amount. so as you say will probably be the first 2 they catch

stocking
ive read you over stock the tank for aggression so how many should i add at a time?

thanks i apprectiate it

chris
 
My biggest male is at or a little over 6 inches, my females range from about 3.5-5 inches. Just like people fish size can vary, but on average, they stay in the 4-6 inch range.

As far as caves go, just vary the sizes, you'd be amazed what they can squeeze into, especially females that are holding or don't want to mate.
 
Hey everyone! Sorry to butt in but I figured I might be able to help out a little bit with the cichlid topic since I have kept quite a few cichlids thus far.

First, let me preface this by saying that I realize everyone has his/her own opinions and experiences to base those opinions - including myself of course - but sometimes what has worked for others may not work for us -- obviously.

That being said, my experiences with Yellow Labs (Labidochromis caeruleus) has been that they are best kept, like many other cichlids (but not all), in a ratio of one male for every three or more females...with more females being the better option. Of course, I am 100% sure that a lot of hobbyists do not follow that 'guideline' with great success -- however, just because yellow labs are most often labeled as being 'semi-aggressive' or 'peaceful', it may be a mistake to underestimate these fish...the reason being that those labels of 'semi-aggressive'/'peaceful' are most often in comparison to other cichlids and not any/all fish in general. I bring this up because a few years back, when I first started keeping cichlids, I was told to stock my tank by adding the least-aggressive fish first, and then move up on the aggression 'scale' from there. To make a long story short...I added one male yellow lab and then over the course of a few weeks, I also added one P. Kennyi and one M. Auratus - guess who was the 'bully'? Yup, that yellow lab. Again, point being, try not to underestimate any fish.

As a quick side note though...yellow labs are relatively easy to sex once they reach maturity and for at least most mbuna, venting is probably not needed at all since most change color or show variances in sex when mature. Granted, egg spots are not always an accurate 'tool' for sexing, but they do provide at least some hints I suppose. And while I agree that a less dominant cichlid may retain the coloration of the opposite sex in order to 'hide' out from a dominant fish...I believe this cannot be done forever...or is at least rare for a couple reasons.

Although I realize that this may be somewhat contradictory of me to say since I just said we should stick to slightly 'strict' guidelines with cichlids, I thought that I would point out that many hobbyists not only mix different types of cichlids (i.e. Africans, south American, etc...), but I am currently doing so myself by keeping P. Salousi and five bar cichlids together. Granted, I agree with the issues related to keeping fish together which have a different 'lifestyle' are one reason to avoid 'mixing' cichlids...but the water chemistry differences between the geographical locations can arguably be the least of our concerns. I say this for two reasons (although I am sure there are more):

1. Freshwater fish have a great ability to acclimate and thrive in a wide array of water chemistry - and with only a very few exceptions, will act and breed just as they otherwise might in their native waters.

2. In my area at least, most of the cichlids we bring home are tank-bred specimens which means they have never been exposed to the water chemistry of its particular geographical origin and hence, don't really know the difference anyways. While a bit extreme, this effect would be very similar to someone who is struggling because he/she recently became blind versus someone who was born without sight and wouldn't really know the difference unless someone told him/her that being blind is not normal. Make sense?

Perhaps my LFS are a little bit different from others, but while almost all of them have the notorious 'assorted African' tank(s), they are not always mbuna in there -- which I feel is important to know if/when we are trying to stock our tanks based upon fish with similar 'habits'. Just to clarify, since those who are new to cichlids may not already know, mbuna is simply a title which means 'rock dweller' and hence, obviously not all cichlids are mbuna...nor is every cichlid from Africa a mbuna either.

Probably even more contradictory...I also keep a BN pleco in my cichlid tank with great success - however, I do so much more because I like these fish and less for their being apt to 'clean up' algae in the tank. That being said, I agree that a lot, if not all, mbuna will graze on algae - however, they cannot always graze from algae from some surfaces such as fake plants because their teeth are designed to scrape; meaning they need a relatively immovable object to eat algae from (e.g. glass). This also brings up a good point in that a lot of mbuna, while usually labeled as omnivores, many are primarily herbivores and hence, cannot always process/digest meaty foods in large quantities or over long periods of time.

Lastly, I agree with the info/ideas provided on creating caves or little nooks and crannies for cichlids to stake out a territory within, but would add that you may be better served by trying to create many more caves that you have fish.

Hope this helps a bit...again, I don't mean to butt in or seem as though I am looking to get into a heated debate so I apologize if that is how my comments 'sound'.
 
Welcome to the forum Tommy Gun! It's wonderful to have another experienced cichlid keeper around.

I agree with most of what you've posted with a couple of exceptions. The only reliable way to sex yellow labs is to either watch them breed, or vent them. After a while you can get pretty good a picking the different sexes, however, no one is always 100% accurate. I've kept them for about 2 years now, and I'm still not sure of the sex of a couple of them. Females can have just as many egg spots as males, and can be just a brightly colored. My dominate male is actually smaller than a couple of the known females, and has no egg spots. And while the ratio of 1m/3f is ideal, unless you get a hyperdominate male, they can be "peacefully" kept with multiple males.

Now, while I have no problem with mixing cichlids from different lakes/continents, and agree that ph and kh have little impact with tank-bred fish, feeding is the most important thing to take into consideration. Mbuna are especially prone to bloat and should avoid the meaty food that cause that bloat. While it can be done, I just don't recommend it to beginners.

Many cichlid keepers on here keep bn plecos, in fact, it's the most recommended pleco for mbuna if you in mind for one.

Again, I wanted to say, welcome to the forum, and I look forward to your future posts. :good:
Dawn
 
thanks, so 4 like you said will be fine?
Four should be fine, just remember you'll want to only have 1 male.

good luck catching and rehoming him
Thanks, no luck yet, it seems they've divided the tank amongst themselves and as long as they stay on their sides there are not fights, I'm sure this is only temporary though.

thats good then.
ive read about airstones, is it a good idea? does it need to be big/powerfill?

You don't need an airstone, your filters with provide enough water movement for airation, you can add them if you like them though.

so not really worth it then, i thought he/she would help with the cleaning up but as you said my hoover chiclids will do that
Like I said before, adding a bn pleco is up to you, if you like them, go for it.

ok, they have them in a tank of about 10 and said pairs for x amount. so as you say will probably be the first 2 they catch
Exactly.

stocking
ive read you over stock the tank for aggression so how many should i add at a time?

thanks i apprectiate it

chris

If you fishless cycle (can't remember if you said you were), you can add all of them at once. If your tank is already cycled, or if you prefer not to completely stock at once, you could add 1 species at a time (starting with the least aggressive) every week to two weeks. However if you do that, you may have to move the rocks around with each addition to mix up their territories to avoid aggression.
 
welcome tommy and thanks for the post (every bit of info is better than none with different experiece's)

yep i will be doing a fishless cycle (have tank setup cycled etc already) but need to get rid of my current stock and drain the tank down to add substrate etc so will be a good time to start again with new filter media.

any suggestions for filter media
its a ehiem pro 2 it has 2 containers being about 4 inches tall
the ecco is 2 containers and about 2 1/2 inches tall

(i wont be using eheim products as its a waste)


substrate
i was thinking this (will its go with slate or not?)
http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/catalogue...d-substrate.asp?

or should i go for sand? and put some crushed coral in my filters?

or is live sand fine?

thanks and sorry for all the questions
chris
 
Thanks for the welcomes...and I understand that there are some problems with sexing yellow labs, but as you elude to Dawn, observation, over time, can make things pretty clear. IME though, my males were always rather easy to pick out of a crowd due to a larger/more 'bold' black stripe on the dorsal fin...but again, that is just my experience with them. And in case I wasn't as clear as I should have been, I wasn't trying to say that only one male yellow lab should be kept per tank as might be the advice given for other mbuna, but only that more females than males should be kept; whether than be one male/three females, two males/five females, etc...etc...etc...

I also agree that, in theory, if fishless cycling, there is less risk with adding higher numbers of fish at one time -- but IMHO, it is still always best to go slow...which is probably even more true when stocking with cichlids since, in this case, there is some strategy to which species of fish to add first and all of that. Personally, other than that one instance of having an overly dominant yellow lab (versus other yellow lab males anyways), I have found that stocking the least aggressive cichlid first - hence, allowing them to establish territories and a hierarchy before adding other fish which may be somewhat faster or more determined to do so can save some headaches in the long run...but would add to that a trick that has helped me out a number of times in that, each time you add a new group of fish, do some quick rearranging in the tank to 'bust up' any strongly held territories and sort of confuse your fish a little bit. Additionally, if you want to use dither fish of any sort, those are almost always best added first IMHO and IME.

Another hint that I would strongly suggest you consider fully, especially if you are going to use the cichlid substrate shown on the web page you gave a link for, is to go above and beyond the often suggested acclimation procedures of simply floating the bag until water temps match by using a drip acclimation (or equivalent...I can't say I have ever used the entire drip method, but simply add small amounts of water to the bag over a period of time...even with my saltwater fish) technique to allow your new cichlids (and/or dither fish) time to adjust from the LFS's water chemistry to yours - which would almost certainly be different unless they are using the same substrate and water source (e.g. same city water...and even then, differences can occur). As I brought up before, many of the cichlids you would find on a regular basis, unless labeled otherwise, are tank bred and hence, may have never experienced the sort of water chemistry the substrate you are thinking of would create. While it is very true that I have never used that substrate before so I can't say how good or bad it is, the point is that these differences between an LFS's tank and ours can be dramatic, to say the least. Always best to 'play it safe' IMHO!

Conversely, if you do go with sand, there is really no problem with doing so (assuming that it is an aquarium safe version) and any issues/concerns over doing so can be overcome with proper acclimation techniques anyways...which is my opinion, but based upon some rather strong scientific facts (for those naysayers out there... :D ). Personally, I love sand as a substrate and it works relatively well with mbuna who, as already mentioned, will dig in it - primarily when they want to mate I believe, but I could be wrong on that. Point being, if they want to dig, sand seems like the much easier option for us as hobbyists because we can simply push it back in place with any number of tools, including a net.

Regarding the crushed coral, if you really feel compelled to use it, there is nothing wrong with that....although you really don't have to. Honestly, I cannot think of any cichlid other than discus and maybe angelfish which would refuse to breed or behave any different when kept in water with a differing pH than it would find in nature...and to be honest, it can be a little bit risky for us to 'tinker' too much with pH since, if changes are made too fast or too large, our fish can be faced with osmotic shock issues - which can lead not only to illnesses/diseases, but just as easily death (which is also why I feel we should do more than 'float the bag til temps match and release our fish'). Granted, crushed coral and similar substrates are much longer lasting than most, if not all of the buffering chemicals and/or products available today, but it is not a permanent solution and over time, dissolves into the very same water we are replacing during water changes - hence, it becomes less and less effective, albeit very slowly. My thinking here is simply this: Why become a 'slave' to a product or procedure that we, and our fish, really could do without? (Again, just my opinion, and I am sure others will disagree...which is fine with me)

Lastly...don't be too hasty with starting completely over!!! That substrate you want to change, including all of that great (and established) filter media it sounds you are planning on throwing out can be your very best friend right now - especially if you are going to fishless cycle the tank since it may severely reduce the amount of time between now and when you can start adding your new aquatic friends!!! While you don't have to, of course, I would place some of that substrate (probably as much as possible even) in a filter sack or even a clean, unscented nylon stocking and keep it in the tank until you have made your changes and are re-cycled. This would completely negate the need for you to wait for the beneficial bacteria to find your tank (it will come on its own, again, for those naysayers out there...millions of people use the good old 'wait and see' method) OR, even better, save you some money on buying those bacteria-based products which, depending on how they are stored and cared for before you buy them (which, I might add, is out of our control, as well as being impossible to verify 100% accurately), may or may not work (...bought a 'bad' package of BioSpira once - it was a mess that I would love to forget about!!!). The best part is, since you have kept it in a bag of some sort, you can remove it once your tank is up and ready (read: safe) for aquatic life again so that it doesn't 'clash' with your new aqua-scaping. You can also do the same with your filter media...to include any older carbon filter media since beneficial bacteria also populate that area to some extent as well (depending on how long it has been since you last replaced it obviously...it is, more or less, just carbon gravel in most cases).

Oh, and one more thing you might be interested in, (sorry to go on and on...as you can tell, I love to 'talk fish') especially if you go with the sand substrate, check into the benefits of using a substrate cable heater - like the one you can see by clicking HERE - since these can help reduce the problems associated with anaerobic pockets being formed in sand and basically creates much of the same advantages as an under-gravel filter, without the problematic maintenance issues associated with them.
 

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