New Tak Stocking

[frankie2]

my new tank arrives tomorow afternoon , once cycled will be keen to add fish was thinking of discus , then african cichlids , but now sicking with a large community tank ....

stocking ideas x 10 mixed rainbows (juvinille)
x 4 clown loaches (juivinille)
good shoal of mixed corrys open to suggestions on quantiy and breed !!
x6 meduim angels ( lookingto breed )
X1 gold nugget pleco
2 bristle nose pleos ( male and female )
and a shoal of dennision barbs ! once i hv saved mt pennys !!
maybe X1 RTBS
FILTER

x 2 external one fluval 405 and 305

am open to any suggesions or if wrong stockig please tell me so !!
also would i be able to add som blue rams or other dwarf ciclids ?
thnks for reading nik
lok forward to replys

tank size 174cm x 56cm x44 cm 450ltrs

 

[frankie2]

any body ??

 

[Little_Nemo]

Need to know the tank size, so the more experienced memebers can work out if your stocking list works after cycling.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

my new tank arrives tomorow afternoon , once cycled will be keen to add fish was thinking of discus , then african cichlids , but now sicking with a large community tank ....

stocking ideas x 10 mixed rainbows (juvinille)
x 4 clown loaches (juivinille)
good shoal of mixed corrys open to suggestions on quantiy and breed !!
x6 meduim angels ( lookingto breed )
X1 gold nugget pleco
2 bristle nose pleos ( male and female )
and a shoal of dennision barbs ! once i hv saved mt pennys !!
maybe X1 RTBS
FILTER

x 2 external one fluval 405 and 305

am open to any suggesions or if wrong stockig please tell me so !!
also would i be able to add som blue rams or other warf ciclids ?
thnks for reading nik
lok forward to replys

Well I will put my head on the chopping board...

• Denisons Barb, like Weather Loaches, have a wide temperature range of "acceptable" conditions (16-25C). However, they are sub-tropical fish and keeping them at the top end of that range as the norm (not just a "summer period") is going to drastically shorten their lifespan (due to increased metabolic rate) and make them suseptable to illness. If you really want these fish, which i almost get the feeling you do from your post, you need to choose tankmates that need no more than 22C. I tried to gradually lower the temp for my captive bred group to 20C last summer, but surprisingly this really stressed them out (lost all their red stripe), so I had to settle on a 22C comprimise.
• Generally speaking, loaches and corydoras catfish are a bad combo, they both scavenge for food on the tank floor and the loaches will always win that "battle." They may be other exceptions (perhaps Bearded Cory?), but I chose Brochis multiradiatus [Hog-nosed Brochis] a few months ago to go with my Weather Loaches, because they are bigger cories with a semi-boisterous side that will enable them to eat.
• Clown Loaches would mean setting up the tank as a typical tropical temp of 25+C, plus they form a complex social structure that would realistically need six at the very least. "Vickandkev" have a 30+ group in their 8x4x2 tank!
• You might have another conflict between Angelfish and Gold Nugget Pleco, as I believe the pleco must have good current/aeration, whereas I think Angels need calm water, despite both species enjoying warm water.
• Not sure if a Red Tail Black Shark who consider Denisons Barb as a conspecific (from shape more than colour) and the fact they both would be sharing the lower levels of the tank, pecking at bits of food on the tank bottom.
• A lot of Rainbowfish prefer the cooler side of "normal" temps, < 24C, but there are exceptions. Given that it is a good idea to have at least double the number of females than males in the group, a 7:3 mix of one species will look amazing in the upper water, rather than a multi-colour cocktail of two or more species. Beware these fish depend of regular big (>50%) water changes to prevent columnaris infections.
• Blue Rams have a sensitive reputation (tend to die within months in anything but soft water) and need warmer than average temps around 28C, which will have a massive influence of your choice of tankmates. Not to mention any other tankmates on/near the tank substrate need to be chosen with care, they will be territorial (especially when breeding), which could be disasterous for some fragile cories for example.

In conclusion, you need to choose your "must have fish." Research its regular temp requirements, amount of water movement it likes, feeding habits, aggressiveness etc. Only then can you choose compatable tankmates to fill your 6-footer, that will make many of us on here very jealous!

Filter wise, I'm not sure if a 405 and 305 would be upto the job in a big tan like this. I'd be looking at a Fluval FX5 and the 405 at the very least, possibly with the addition of a 4000+lph powerhead if you choose fish that like current (Denisons, Gold Nugget, Clowns).

 

[markandhisfish]

Need to know the tank size, so the more experienced memebers can work out if your stocking list works after cycling.

clues in the title

 

[frankie2]

my new tank arrives tomorow afternoon , once cycled will be keen to add fish was thinking of discus , then african cichlids , but now sicking with a large community tank ....

stocking ideas x 10 mixed rainbows (juvinille)
x 4 clown loaches (juivinille)
good shoal of mixed corrys open to suggestions on quantiy and breed !!
x6 meduim angels ( lookingto breed )
X1 gold nugget pleco
2 bristle nose pleos ( male and female )
and a shoal of dennision barbs ! once i hv saved mt pennys !!
maybe X1 RTBS
FILTER

x 2 external one fluval 405 and 305

am open to any suggesions or if wrong stockig please tell me so !!
also would i be able to add som blue rams or other warf ciclids ?
thnks for reading nik
lok forward to replys

Well I will put my head on the chopping board...

• Denisons Barb, like Weather Loaches, have a wide temperature range of "acceptable" conditions (16-25C). However, they are sub-tropical fish and keeping them at the top end of that range as the norm (not just a "summer period") is going to drastically shorten their lifespan (due to increased metabolic rate) and make them suseptable to illness. If you really want these fish, which i almost get the feeling you do from your post, you need to choose tankmates that need no more than 22C. I tried to gradually lower the temp for my captive bred group to 20C last summer, but surprisingly this really stressed them out (lost all their red stripe), so I had to settle on a 22C comprimise.
• Generally speaking, loaches and corydoras catfish are a bad combo, they both scavenge for food on the tank floor and the loaches will always win that "battle." They may be other exceptions (perhaps Bearded Cory?), but I chose Brochis multiradiatus [Hog-nosed Brochis] a few months ago to go with my Weather Loaches, because they are bigger cories with a semi-boisterous side that will enable them to eat.
• Clown Loaches would mean setting up the tank as a typical tropical temp of 25+C, plus they form a complex social structure that would realistically need six at the very least. "Vickandkev" have a 30+ group in their 8x4x2 tank!
• You might have another conflict between Angelfish and Gold Nugget Pleco, as I believe the pleco must have good current/aeration, whereas I think Angels need calm water, despite both species enjoying warm water.
• Not sure if a Red Tail Black Shark who consider Denisons Barb as a conspecific (from shape more than colour) and the fact they both would be sharing the lower levels of the tank, pecking at bits of food on the tank bottom.
• A lot of Rainbowfish prefer the cooler side of "normal" temps, < 24C, but there are exceptions. Given that it is a good idea to have at least double the number of females than males in the group, a 7:3 mix of one species will look amazing in the upper water, rather than a multi-colour cocktail of two or more species. Beware these fish depend of regular big (>50%) water changes to prevent columnaris infections,
• Blue Rams have a sensitive reputation (tend to die within months in anything but soft water) and need warmer than average temps around 28C, which will have a massive influence of your choice of tankmates. Not to mention any other tankmates on/near the tank substrate need to be chosen with care, they will be territorial (especially when breeding), which could be disasterous for some fragile cories for example.

In conclusion, you need to choose your "must have fish." Research its regular temp requirements, amount of water movement it likes, feeding habits, aggressiveness etc. Only then can you choose compatable tankmates to fill your 6-footer, that will make many of us on here very jealous!

that was a well thought out post !!! thanks for your time and effort !!
a left feeling pretty confused now though !
as for the barbs they would be a last edition maybe the finishing touches ! think the best thing i could do is go away and rad some more !! thanks again ..

 

[Little_Nemo]

Need to know the tank size, so the more experienced memebers can work out if your stocking list works after cycling.

clues in the title

I realised a couple of minutes after posting ... lol whoops

 

[creg]

in a tank that big id have a group of discus and a huge shoal of tetra

 

[frankie2]

in a tank that big id have a group of discus and a huge shoal of tetra

ooohhh man !! b ack to the discus again

 

[Carlovel1]

In addition to everything, read this quote:

In deep tanks, small Corydoras may struggle to reach the surface. In a plain aquarium, 45 cm may be taken as a safe depth of water for medium- to large-sized species like Corydoras panda and Corydoras aeneus. Smaller species, like Corydoras hastatus, shouldn't really be kept at more than 30 cm depth. In deeper tanks, it's generally recommended you go with Brochis rather than Corydoras spp; Brochis are altogether stronger swimmers and naturally come from relatively deep waters. Corydoras are very much shallow water fish that inhabit creeks and streams rather than rivers.

 

[frankie2]

In addition to everything, read this quote:

In deep tanks, small Corydoras may struggle to reach the surface. In a plain aquarium, 45 cm may be taken as a safe depth of water for medium- to large-sized species like Corydoras panda and Corydoras aeneus. Smaller species, like Corydoras hastatus, shouldn't really be kept at more than 30 cm depth. In deeper tanks, it's generally recommended you go with Brochis rather than Corydoras spp; Brochis are altogether stronger swimmers and naturally come from relatively deep waters. Corydoras are very much shallow water fish that inhabit creeks and streams rather than rivers.

thanks again !! what would you keep in such a tank if you wouldnt mind ??

 

[Carlovel1]

In addition to everything, read this quote:

In deep tanks, small Corydoras may struggle to reach the surface. In a plain aquarium, 45 cm may be taken as a safe depth of water for medium- to large-sized species like Corydoras panda and Corydoras aeneus. Smaller species, like Corydoras hastatus, shouldn't really be kept at more than 30 cm depth. In deeper tanks, it's generally recommended you go with Brochis rather than Corydoras spp; Brochis are altogether stronger swimmers and naturally come from relatively deep waters. Corydoras are very much shallow water fish that inhabit creeks and streams rather than rivers.

thanks again !! what would you keep in such a tank if you wouldnt mind ??

I would stock what you have chosen TBH nice choice
But some Brochis instead of Corys. Oh and if you can't afford Denisonni Barb then have a look at Scissortail Rasbora.