New Pair

[Gill]

So feeling a bit bored of being without a job (redundancy) Felt like cheering myself up.
Decided to buy a nice betta.
Found this little gem of a boy, Never seen one like him before and probably never will again.
Asked the seller if he had any sibling females and he kindly sent one.
Was Worried about him eating at first, but he got used to eating BBgold after a few days.

Female

 

[Hawkins]

both beautiful, will you be breeding?

 

[lilacamy931]

Jaw dropping! That is one stunning boy you have there. The female is just as pretty but the lad is fantastic!

 

[Gill]

both beautiful, will you be breeding?

Yep, I am Conditioning ATM - Never seen a Short Body before

Jaw dropping! That is one stunning boy you have there. The female is just as pretty but the lad is fantastic!

Thanks

 

[Hawkins]

both beautiful, will you be breeding?

Yep, I am Conditioning ATM - Never seen a Short Body before

Thanks

Oh yeah, never noticed! Was too busy looking at his fins.

I'm not keen on the short body It kinda looks un natural, and sometimes it can cause complications with their insides being squashed together!

 

[fishywishyfeet]

Hi
Although he is a nice looking individual fish, I believe it is irresponsible to purposely breed whats is really a deformed fish. You have no idea what the genetic make-up of this fish is, and therefore cannot be sure that all the fry will not be deformed, which means a massive cull. It also puts both the male and female at risk for what is an experiment. It is not unheard of to lose a breeding fish due to the stresses of spawning.

 

[Gill]

Thank you for your concern.
I have discovered that he cannot wrap with the female to spawn, due to his body shape. So he will not be spawned but will be very well looked after.

I do not feel that it is irresponsible to want to breed them. I liked him and wanted to try, he is just another variation on the Thousands up Thousands of Line Bred Bettas. You Could say the same for all Fancy Goldfish, they are line bred with there deformities (Pom Pom, Telescope, Lionhead)

 

[fishywishyfeet]

Quite true about fancy goldfish, however, it is well documented that these fancy goldfish also suffer more with swimbladder issues due to the contorted shape of their bodies. It is similar to other species of animal as the indiscriminate breeding of dog like Bulldogs, King Charles etc etc.....all bred for the same purpose, what they look like not what is best for the animal.
Although bettas have been line bred for decades, producing many fin variations, the body shapes have almost remained constant. Conscientious breeders have acknowledge that FT is about the limit to this development as any further would cause swimming problems.
I really cannot understand why people want to meddle with deformed bettas for the sake of just wanting to see what they get.

can i ask what you would have done if you had got fry? I mean, woould you have sold them? If so, who's to say whether the deformity is carried on further down the line and how many deformed bettas may be produced in future generations?

I stick by my opinion that it is irresponsible to the betta species.

 

[Gill]

Quite true about fancy goldfish, however, it is well documented that these fancy goldfish also suffer more with swimbladder issues due to the contorted shape of their bodies. It is similar to other species of animal as the indiscriminate breeding of dog like Bulldogs, King Charles etc etc.....all bred for the same purpose, what they look like not what is best for the animal.
Although bettas have been line bred for decades, producing many fin variations, the body shapes have almost remained constant. Conscientious breeders have acknowledge that FT is about the limit to this development as any further would cause swimming problems.
I really cannot understand why people want to meddle with deformed bettas for the sake of just wanting to see what they get.

can i ask what you would have done if you had got fry? I mean, woould you have sold them? If so, who's to say whether the deformity is carried on further down the line and how many deformed bettas may be produced in future generations?

I stick by my opinion that it is irresponsible to the betta species.

Thank you for stating you opinion.

 

[Gill]

A Few New Pix of him

 

[lilacamy931]

I have to say I was also looking at the fins so much I did not notice the short body! He is still stunning, you got the jack pot there I'd say

Deformity - irresponsible? My opinion on this not to contradict anyone or anger etc, but from what I have read and seen of some truly awful specimens, he really does not seem that bad, his body is relatively short but I have seen awful ones. At the end of the day we are all individuals I personally would not breed but then again i haven't the tanks and time to look after the fry or the knowledge to breed bettas, if these are in supply and you can house why not? (Do understand the logic of the gene being passed on, but then again it is continuing to pass on as he is evidence).

Perhaps I do not know what I am saying but we can agree he is the beauty!

 

[Gill]

I have to say I was also looking at the fins so much I did not notice the short body! He is still stunning, you got the jack pot there I'd say

Deformity - irresponsible? My opinion on this not to contradict anyone or anger etc, but from what I have read and seen of some truly awful specimens, he really does not seem that bad, his body is relatively short but I have seen awful ones. At the end of the day we are all individuals I personally would not breed but then again i haven't the tanks and time to look after the fry or the knowledge to breed bettas, if these are in supply and you can house why not? (Do understand the logic of the gene being passed on, but then again it is continuing to pass on as he is evidence).

Perhaps I do not know what I am saying but we can agree he is the beauty!

Thanks, I have noticed that he has grown in length a little. He is a Little Star and I really Like him. Whether or not i breed him with his sister, up to me. I have the space to care for fry and as the Gene is Recessive its pot luck if any are SB.
More and more fish in the hobby are being bred for SB as People are liking the shape. In the last couple of Years I have seen more and More of this Breeding.
Pearl Gouramis, Kissing Gouramis, Rams, Oscars, Red Eye Tetras, Platties, Paradise Fish, Convicts, Flowerhorns, Endlies, Parrot's, Livebearers, this list goes on. Its just another Species that is beginning to be bred and the Ones this breeder has shown me are Stunning.

 

[lilacamy931]

If you do breed I would love to see how the fry turn out!

 

[Gill]

If you do breed I would love to see how the fry turn out!

Time will Tell, but if bred then i would send some pix your way

 

[Gill]

So Blue is over a Year Old And Still Going Strong, have encountered no problems with his health. Not Bothered to try breeding him again as unable to wrap a female.