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kporteo

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Hi all, new member here. Me and the hubby are looking at buying a tropical aquarium, we currently have a biorb 30l that we use for 1 goldfish, but want something special for the corner of the living room. We have been looking online for most of today and have shortlisted this http://www.seapets.co.uk/products/aquarium-supplies/aquariums/juwel/juwel-trigon-aquariums/juwel-trigon-190-bow-front-corner-aquarium-and-cabinet-black.html . being a comlete novice when it comes to tropical any help/advice would be much appreciated. what else apart from fish would anyone recommend for us? We have shortlisted the tank in the list due to the size, as it would fit perfectly in the space we have pinpointed for it. Is there a better/comparible tank that anyone can advise?
thanks in advance
K
 
its a good tank choice but very expensive....

have a look in the classifieds on here or on aquarist classifieds web site for a good used one :good:
 
That's a really nice aquarium...

I agree with mattlee about the price, for a nice aquarium, consider getting a starter kit. I find that they are easy, because instead of running around trying to find all your stuff, you can just buy a box with everything you need :blush:
I always liked WaterHome aquariums, I find them really nice.

Zophie
 
just an example of price difference :good:

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/331689-juwel-trigon-190-for-sale/
 
I know you can pick them up a lot cheaper used, but, its got to be black to match decor which is a problem, also the cabinet has to be the size of the juwel. What sort of plants etc would anyone recommend?
K
 
I know you can pick them up a lot cheaper used, but, its got to be black to match decor which is a problem, also the cabinet has to be the size of the juwel. What sort of plants etc would anyone recommend?
K
your tank will need to be cycled first and why its doing this you can research what plants will do best in your water. hardness and pH have a role in what determins the species of plant that can be kept, also some fish will eat plants so be carefull when mixing cetain species of plants with some fish. DO NOT listen to fish shops that tell you to leave the tank running for a week then add fish and that you need to buy bacteria in a bottle from their shelf. this bottled bacteria is of no use and is a waste of money. running a tank with just water has absolutely no effect what so ever on the tank cycle. they will also ask you for a water sample to test and of course there will be no ammonia or nitrites present as there hasnt been any fish in the tank to cause this so they will sell you fish. when added the fish will start to produce ammonia and without the bacteria colonies in the filter already set up by cycling the fish will slowly become unwell and poisoned by its own poo and wee.... and maybe even die. so the fish shop will sell you more fish and so on. its a good money earner for the shop and can be expensive and frustrating for yourself.
read these links below, they will help you with your tank cycle :good:
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=175355
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=271928&hl=
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=113861
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=224306
dont forget that plants will need fertiliser just like the plants in your garden to do well, the time the tank takes to cycle can be as long as 3 months so you have plenty of time to choose compatable fish species and plants.
when choosing fish they need to be able to live together in peace so you ideally dont want big fish that will eat little fish or too many fish that get teritorial that will fight with other fish that get too close. your water stats will also play a role in what fish can be kept as some prefer higher pH and some lower, some prefer softer water and some harder, some like cooler water and some prefer hotter.
with a lot of fish now being farm bred they have not actually seen their wild homes and have never been in their natural water conditions so pH isnt really too much of an issue with most fish. for example most tetras in the wild will be in a low pH like 6 but many people including myself keep them at much higher pH levels like 7.5 - 8 quite happily, just be sure to acclimatise them slowly and well.
also its best to keep certain numbers of each sex of fish with some species. keeping 2 females with a single male will keep the stress from being harassed spread amongst the 2 females instead of 2 males trying to get their way with a single female and stressing her so eventually she will hide away and may become ill.
some fish prefer to be in groups and the bigger the better. like tetras, danios, barbs etc they will be found in there hundreds in the wild and its in their nature to be in a group when startled so they feel safer. if 1 or 2 tetras etc are kept then they wont feel secure and you wont get the best out of the fish. also its best to keep 1 or 2 bigger groups of the same species rather than 1 big group of mixed species, it looks so much better too :good:
i hope this helps you a bit, dont rush anything and feel free to ask any questions you have on anything your not sure on from cycling the tank/filter to plant and fish choice.

good luck and keep us posted,

Matt :good:
 
Thanks Matt! We'll be ordering the tank in a few days so once its up and running I'll be posting some pictures!
 
Thanks Matt! We'll be ordering the tank in a few days so once its up and running I'll be posting some pictures!
:good: cool make sure you do.... and like i said dont rush into buying fish because you like the red one and the blue one etc etc make sure they are compatable first :good:
 
:good: cool make sure you do.... and like i said dont rush into buying fish because you like the red one and the blue one etc etc make sure they are compatable first :good:

Good advice! When I was a kid we didn't know any better - in the pet store I picked a cute little angel fish and neon tetras. Worked quite well until the angel was about 5 inches tall, and suddenly my neons weren't doing quite so well.
 
Thanks Matt! We'll be ordering the tank in a few days so once its up and running I'll be posting some pictures!
:good: cool make sure you do.... and like i said dont rush into buying fish because you like the red one and the blue one etc etc make sure they are compatable first :good:
another thing to think about is that the fish at the shop will normally be young and less than 6 months old. when planning your tank find out the fishes maximum size and picture the cute little fishes in the shop 3,4 or 6 times bigger and maybe more than what you buy them at. a cute little angel fish thats about an inch big in he store will soon become a very large 6 inch mouth to tail and 8 inches top to bottom and will require a much bigger tank....
there is a general rule to try and help when stocking a tank which is 1 inch of fish per gallon of water, this is a rule thats not bomb proof as some fish grow thicker and some taller than others so this has to be taken into consideration. fish like discus that grow very big and round up to 7 inches compared to 4 tetras equaling 8 inches between them are not going to have the same effect on the filters bioload, the discus will have much more effect than the tetras due to its size and feeding. another species that throws this rule wide open are plecos, even the smaller ones are known poo machines and have a big effect on the bioload.
these are things that the fish shop (lfs) will not tell you and just sell you what you want or like the look of. loads of common plecos get sold to people who just like the look of them not knowing that they can grow to a huge size, the same with clown loaches.

just thought i would add this to help you out when choosing your stocking :good:
 
Ordered tank this morning got a great deal from a site called seapets, got the 190litre tank and cabinet with delivery for £405, then the deal really started, 2 juwel background stones 600 X 550 in granite 23kg of pre washed dorset pea gravel a 120ml bottle of nutrafin aquaplus and a fish net, all included in the price! I am over the moon woth the deal considering most places sell the tank alone for around £400!
K
 
:good: nice one. seapets are a very good competetive company. its always worth checking the net for the best deal.
just make sure that there is absolutely no damage what so ever to the tank or plastic frame on the tank and any chips or cracks even in the plastic may weaken the structure. check before you sign for it even if it means the delivery guy getting the #14### for a while :lol:
im not saying seapets are to blame its the couriers... i used to work for a well know courier company and know just what goes on :grr:

you better get cracking with your stocking and decor plans now then :hyper:

dont forget a bottle of ammonia for the cycle, boots sell the correct one :good:
 
they are great tanks IMO, have a look at the link in my sig.
 
Had water in the tank now for around 2 weeks now, spent today having a good look around fish stockists at what we want to put in, I think we've settled on tetras and placys to start off with, still be a few wekks or so till we get some though. We did buy a few bits and pieces for it today though!
Hope you like!
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