New 21L Tank

chrischeyne

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hi guys i need help we have just bought a second tank a 21 litre so my wife could have a male betta but she has just come home with 1 male and 2 female and now wont to breed them what the best way of doing this?
HELP PLZ !!!!!!!!!! :shout:
 
Keep them seperated at all times or they'll kill each other.

I'm not that knowledgeable about breeding bettas, however.

If they are common vielteils, don't breed them - they're so common no LFS will take them, and a 3 gal tank for each

You'll eventually need a jar for each male (up to 100) and a 40g gal (150l) tank for all the females.

Are you sure you want to breed them?
 
Just because your wife brought 2 females aswell, doesnt mean you have to breed them.
If they get put together, with no research etc, they will garunteed kill each other.

I suggest you research fully. There are lots of threads about people asking "OMG, i want to breed bettas" and we have all responded to them, so it might be worth searching.

Breeding Bettas is not easy, i tell you! :good:
 
i have 6 little tanks that are 12 liters each to keep some of the babys we have got differant aged guppys in there at the min but the can get move to 1 cental tank in a week as this is part of my kids science project for school. they all run off the same filter and they is a feed and a in take from all the small tank it would be a shame to not use the tanks again. i it cost me a bomb to make it. i have also spoken to my lfs and they will take some to. i just wont to know what i need to make them happy to breed as these are my wife faverate type of fish. we would be able to house them afterwords.
so if u could give me some guideance on how to breed them i would be great full. from start to finish as like i said before i have been chucked in at the deepend because she has bought them already?
chris :sick:
 
Hiya :) 6 tanks is no where near enough. Bettas can produce 500 fry. And if 250 of them were males, you would need 250 containers. And as i said before just because you have male and female bettas, it doesnt mean you need to breed them.

anyhoo.....

Let them settle for 2 weeks then condition the pair for 2 weeks on live foods as well as dried pellets/flake.

Set up the spawning tank. It should be 5-10G (empty-no other fish allowed!) (no bigger or smaller. Smaller and you will wreck the nest when catching the female/bigger, the fry will get too far and the daddy betta wont get them to put back into the nest, as he has to tend to the others)
A small sponge filter powered by an airpump is needed. Do not turn this on till the fry are free-swimming. Some plants live/silk, they are good for the female when she wants to hide. IALs are needed to induce spawning. A polystrene plank is great for the male to build a nest under and a heater (set it to 30C)

After conditioning the pair. Put the male in the spawning tank and the female in a chimney glass. (or a 2l pop bottle with the top and bottom cut off) Leave her in here for 2 days. In this time the male will build his nest and the female should become eggy.

After these two days release the female but keep a close eye on them. it might take from 2 hours- 2 weeks for them to spawn. They will have an aggressive courtship. Fins will be torn, but if you see its getting very dangerous and she looks really sad then remove her.
After the courtship the should start wrapping. She will release a few eggs each time. He will collect them and place them in the nest.

When he starts chasing after her, this means you need to remove her. Pop her in her own tank and feed her well. (dose with meds if needed)

Do not feed the male until he is removed. The eggs will tank 36-48 hours to hatch. In this time he will be tending to the nest, blowing fungus off and carrying back fallen eggs. He might also pop some bubbles to make new ones. Dont disturb him, as he might eat them if he feels threatened.

Once they have hatched, they will only swim vertically for approx 3 days. The male will carry on taking them back to the nest if they fall. In these 3 days they will still have there yolk sak so there is no need to feed them.

At 3 days old, they should start swimming horizotaly. Turn the filter on now. Remove the male. This is when you can start feeding them. Live foods are best. Things like worm cultures, Baby brine shrimp, Infusoria etc.

What i use atm is Banana+Walter+Microworms Cultures. Infusoria off Live plants and Apple Snails waste. When they are older i will feed them grated Bloodworm and pellets/flakes.
Feed them 4 small quantities, or 2 large quantities.

At 1 week do your first water change. Then at week 2 do another waterchange. When you are at Week 2.5 try doing waterchanges every 2 days.

At about 3 months you will be able to tell the males apart from the females. Remove them into there own containers. And do daily waterchanges on these. They should be warm too.

They are ready to be passed on at 5 months.

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Take the 2 females back. They need to be kept in at least a 10 gall tank in a group of at least 6. The 21 litre will make a lovely home for the male with a few shrimp or a snail :good:
 
Agreed!

two females isn't a good number!

Can't help reading between the lines and seeing a 'ooh, we'll breed them and make millions on ebay' type thought.
 
Male and female bettas fight. Yes, even when breeding. It is not uncommon for one or both of the pair to come away from the spawning wounded. They must NOT be kept together except for a few hours it takes them to spawn (so you can't keep the three bettas together in that 21 litre tank).

When they so spawn, they must be carefully conditioned with very high quality betta pellets (such as Atison's Betta Pro) and live foods (such a brineshrimp and bloodworm) for around two weeks. You can't just put them together and hope they hit it off.

When the fry are born and free swimming, they can be kept together in a large grow-out tank until the males start becoming aggressive. They will still be too young to sell/re-home at this point so you will need enough small tanks (5 litres is fine) for every single male - and there could be 50-100, if not more. Some of the females will also need to be seperated.

Each of these small tanks must be heated and filtered. If you don't filter them, you'll need to do daily water changes.

The fry are unlikely to make you any kind of profit and the whole enterprise will be expensive to set up due to the heating bills, tanks and equipment you will need. If you have "common" tail-types (such as veiltails), you will find it very difficult to re-home the fry when they are old enough. If you mis-match the parents, you can get a much higher rate of deformed fish or those with totally undesireable tail-types which you will find almost impossible to re-home.

To breed, you really need to know the parentage of the fish you are breeding. There is a lot going on at a genetic level that will play a huge part in how the fry grow up.

When the females are being kept away from the male (i.e. all the time when they are not being bred), you need either a 10 gallon tank with 6 females (or a larger tank with more) or they need to be kept seperately. If kept seperately, they need a good sized tank (such as a 20-30 litre tank) each or you can divide a larger tank up with strong dividers.

Betta breeding takes time, research and preparation.

This isn't a step-by-step guide but until you know the costs and the risks, there is no point giving you that.
 
cheers for the help i have now put the 2 female in my community tank for the time been so i can talk some sense in to my wife.i am going to now leave my 6 little tanks set up.as i now have baby plecs all over my tank. so i give them a week and then put them in the 6 little tanks. i now going to print this whole tread to show my wife and this will hopfully put here off outher wise i will go out and buy lots of food in jars. cheers again chris
 
Being the massive feminist I am you're unlikely to hear me say this again:

Stand up to her.
 

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