Need Your Advice On A Stream Set Up

[modaz]

got a 8 x1x1 and was thinking of turning it into an 8 foot stream and attempt to breed red lined torpedo barbs, ive got 4 already and even though its almost impossible to sex them one of them is obviously the opposite sex due to large difference in size, it deffinately the same species before anyone says so

so anyway, was thinkingabout setting it up so that it was about 1-2 foot above floor level, with a resevior at one end raised about 1.5 foot above the rim of the tank with a plastic waterfall that you get in LFS pond sections connecting the resevior and the main tank then adding pebbles to the base raised slightly at the waterfall end and decreasing towards the end of the tank, some plants that would make the tank look naturally like a stream, a few rocks, caves and some java moss thats held in place with the rocks. will use an external filter and expand the piping to suit the length of the tank with the output in the resevior and the inout at the other end with some fine mesh or netting over it to stop it sucking up any fry, thats if i actually get any
was gunna try to create a natural habitat for these fish with water at 6.8 -7.8 pH, a water hardness of 5 - 25 dGH, and a temperature range of 60 -77 °F (15 - 25 °C). and fast flowing current.


what other issues can you think of about this setup and how could i improve it? dont mind what you say as its just a thought ATM but will put it into practice if it has a good chance of working.

i do see one problem though, with the netting on the output wouldnt it cause a problem with a fast flow? would need daily sorting

cant give you pics of tank yet as gotta pick it up next week first....sorry but will post them when i get it

 

[Aphotic Phoenix]

If the waterfall is utilizing the filter output as it's source then I'll think you'll be okay, but if you use an internal pump beware of clogging!

Also you may need a power head (or two) to keep a good current going along the entire length of the tank.

How are you doing the lighting setup? Just curious 'cause I was thinking about doing a long length, short height tank myself for a bunch of tiny species!

 

[modaz]

If the waterfall is utilizing the filter output as it's source then I'll think you'll be okay, but if you use an internal pump beware of clogging!

Also you may need a power head (or two) to keep a good current going along the entire length of the tank.

How are you doing the lighting setup? Just curious 'cause I was thinking about doing a long length, short height tank myself for a bunch of tiny species!

not to sure yet, thats why im asking for your imput there so many options i could use i suppose, i dont really want it to be completely lit up just in certain places, trying to create different areas and see which area works best for breeding, ie current flows, lighting, substrate everything would be documented to see what works best if it did work at all, see im all negative at the start

power heads idea

 

[-germ-]

Good luck i love fast tanks, that is if you pull it off <---confidence boost
Have a look on LOL (loaches on line) for tips on setting up tanks of this type.

Link---> me

 

[modaz]

Good luck i love fast tanks, that is if you pull it off <---confidence boost
Have a look on LOL (loaches on line) for tips on setting up tanks of this type.

Link---> me

thanks for the link germ

 

[Aphotic Phoenix]

Ouch...apparently all the sources I've looked at say "not reported bred in captivity". I guess you like a challenge eh?

If you can find it, there is an article in Aqualog News July 2005 issue about a successful breeding of Barbus denisonii.

My recommendation (and mind you I have no experience in breeding fish) would be perhaps to make a shallow area with low current with or near to a small heater, since shallow edges of streams and rivers are get warmer than the deeper parts, and warmer water temps help trigger breeding. It's assumed they are egg scatterers like most other barbs, so use a substrate the eggs can fall between in potential breeding spots.

 

[modaz]

Ouch...apparently all the sources I've looked at say "not reported bred in captivity". I guess you like a challenge eh?

If you can find it, there is an article in Aqualog News July 2005 issue about a successful breeding of Barbus denisonii.

My recommendation (and mind you I have no experience in breeding fish) would be perhaps to make a shallow area with low current with or near to a small heater, since shallow edges of streams and rivers are get warmer than the deeper parts, and warmer water temps help trigger breeding. It's assumed they are egg scatterers like most other barbs, so use a substrate the eggs can fall between in potential breeding spots.

yep like a good challenge me LOL, these fish are popping up quite often at the moment and are coming in to LFSs as fry and i mean really tiny fry and just developing their red stripe, ive been looking for months for breeding details but had no luck as you can see, oh well if it fails i will just fill it with green neons LOL. this is the good thing with an 8 footer, it gives that extra space to provide different depths of water and like you say will also affect the temp of these areas,

 

[england]

nice one daz.........dont know anything but looking forward to seeing the finished product.....where did you get the torpedo barbs?
seen some in charminster

 

[Tiger Barb]

I know nothing at all about breeding fish, but I have seen all the "not reported in captivity" notices about the red-lined torpedo barbs. However, if you look on Tri-Mar's website here they are clearly stating that they sell tank-bred red-lines..... and the price of them would suggest that they are not wild caught. Perhaps give them a call...?

 

[modaz]

Hi nelly, had these from tony, 1 died in transit, 3 of them are about 4"-5" so almost fully grown but the other has stayed alot slimer and 2.5"-3" long.

yep did look at trimar, they are the only people to claim to have bred them in tanks, will defo give them a call.

saw a 600L tank full of them in london, just outside gatwick a few months ago and they had a selection of adults and fry but they werent tank bred but wild caught