Need Help On What Fish To Buy!

[yzho105]

hello every one

recently i got rid of my old 22L mini tank and brought a new 130L. now i have 12 tetras( 8lemon tetras and 5 rosy tetras) plus a few "bottom eater" type fish(1 algea eater, 1 up side down catfish and 2 tiny cat fish shaped ones which i forgot its name). i've got moderate amount of plants. i am hoping to add some new ones who are slightly bigger and fancier.

My questions are:
1. i love the looks of a 'red tail shark', i've heard its aggressive and it will bully my other fishes, is that true? is it really a bad idea to keep them? plz help?

2. they say( in the web mainly) 'clown loach' tends to destroy plants. is it suitable in my case?

3. can i keep angle fishes?

4. any good recommendations on what should i get?
here is a photo of my new aquarium

Thanks alot every one!!!!!!!!!

 

[00mitomk]

ok first thing what are dimensions becouse angel fish need height also i wouldnt reccomend a RTS mainly becouse they are fin nippers and get more agressive with age.

another thing clown loaches get big ( loach exsperts correct me if im wrong) but yer tank might be too small and i think destroy plants by accident ie uproot them becouse thy get big.

i would recomend a nice pleco and some corys thy are great to watch a pleco always add character to a tank imo.

hope tht helps

miles

 

[yzho105]

ok first thing what are dimensions becouse angel fish need height also i wouldnt reccomend a RTS mainly becouse they are fin nippers and get more agressive with age.

another thing clown loaches get big ( loach exsperts correct me if im wrong) but yer tank might be too small and i think destroy plants by accident ie uproot them becouse thy get big.

i would recomend a nice pleco and some corys thy are great to watch a pleco always add character to a tank imo.

hope tht helps

miles

i've updated a photo of my aquarium, u've mention about height for angle fish. as you can see. it has this tall shape rather than flat. u think its ok for angle fish? thanks

 

[00mitomk]

yea that would be a nice size id get at least 3

my favs are the platium kinda realli nice looking maybe even some rams like in my avata would look good

hope this helps miles

 

[MegTheFish]

^You really have to be careful with angelfish though. If you get three, two could pair up and bully the other one. Or they could get along just fine. Same with getting two of them, they could hate each other and fight non-stop, tolerate each other, or become a pair. IMO go for just one angelfish, but people say they do better with their own kind. You could buy a proven pair (but they may get aggressive towards other fish while spawing), or get a bunch and let them pair off, and return the ones you don't want. I personaly have just stuck with one, to make it easier, LoL.
Clown loaches- too big
Red tailed shark- can be pretty aggressive, wouldn't risk it

And with plecos- make sure you stick with the smaller species, such as a clown or tiger.

Also, the aglea eater needs to be indentified. Upside down cats should be kept in groups (3+), and, the catfish you have, could they possibly be cories?

 

[Mr Miagi]

1. i love the looks of a 'red tail shark', i've heard its aggressive and it will bully my other fishes, is that true? is it really a bad idea to keep them? plz help?

RTBS or the Red Tailed Black Shark can be aggressive, and chase other fish. Ive never had a case where it actually damaged another fish, it just chases them from its territory. Not a good idea if you want Angel fish, becuase for their optimum conditions, they need peaceful, docile fish. If you really want a RTBS set up a set territory for the fish using one piece of stone, a piece of bog wood and place them towards one sidfe of the tank. He/she should then use this decor to rest on, and might leave the others alone.

Over time he will outgrow your tank though. They are nice fish.

2. they say( in the web mainly) 'clown loach' tends to destroy plants. is it suitable in my case?

Yep, in their relentlous search for food, activity, digging, and general clumsyness they will uproot and disturb your plants, so unless your plants are well rooted in a fine sand substrate, might be best to go with Corydoras as already mentioned.

I like the thought of a pair of Dwarf Cichlids or Rams or something in a nice planted tank like that!

Nice tank BTW, its gorgeous for a relatively new tank! Congrats on the up-grade!

Here is TFF's FAQ topic on Angel Fish: http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=35001

 

[yzho105]

^You really have to be careful with angelfish though. If you get three, two could pair up and bully the other one. Or they could get along just fine. Same with getting two of them, they could hate each other and fight non-stop, tolerate each other, or become a pair. IMO go for just one angelfish, but people say they do better with their own kind. You could buy a proven pair (but they may get aggressive towards other fish while spawing), or get a bunch and let them pair off, and return the ones you don't want. I personaly have just stuck with one, to make it easier, LoL.
Clown loaches- too big
Red tailed shark- can be pretty aggressive, wouldn't risk it

And with plecos- make sure you stick with the smaller species, such as a clown or tiger.

Also, the aglea eater needs to be indentified. Upside down cats should be kept in groups (3+), and, the catfish you have, could they possibly be cories?

thanks for ur comments. and i think the algea eater is what u guys call "chinese algea eater" he seems to be okey in my starter tank n he is doing a good job of getting rid of the algeas, it seems in this new tank, however, he became more energetic occasionally starting to chase my tetras, so should i get rid of him? secondly, should i get more upside down cats? cuz the one i have hardly swims, most of the time he/she just stick on the down side of a stone. if i get more, would they swim around more often? if not, isn't it a waste of money since i rearly see them? lastly, the little qute "cat fish" like bottom eaters, they are tiny, no bigger than the size of my thumb, they are quite flat, black with white spots over them. they eat algea i think.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

cae can get pretty big and aggresive from what ive heard. I would get a bristle nose pleco instead and maybe some cory cats. that tank looks pretty small maybe only 10-15g. btw red tailed shark would get too big

 

[Mikaila31]

Upside-down catfish do like to be in groups and they are nocturnal so you probably won't see them that often.

 

[Tommy Gunnz]

Just to help you out a little bit, red tailed sharks are usually territorial and may chase other bottom dwelling fish species (clown loaches for example) but their highest aggression levels can be seen when there are more than one of the same species in the tank together. This is also true for fish that look very similar to the RTBS, such as the rainbow shark. They also get quite big when full grown and this may become a problem for you in the future since they will definately have the size and aggression levels needed to bully most any of the fish you already have in the tank.

Clown loaches do get to be pretty big, in the area of 10 to 12 inches I believe, however they grow so slow that they can be kept in smaller tanks for quite a few years. They will do much much better in groups. I have heard the minimum recomendations as being as low as 3 and as high as 5. Definately the more the merrier in this case (within the limits of your tank that is.

Clown loaches are also pretty shy and tend to be reclusive at first. They will also stay this way unless you take some simple actions like keeping them in groups and creating alot of hiding spots for them in your tank. I realize this sounds counter productive since trying to break a fish out of its shyness by giving it more places to hide is somewhat of an oxymoron, but the hiding places will allow the loaches to be more bold because they are always close to a hiding spot if the need arises.

Again, loaches and a RTBS might in the same tank together might make your clown loaches stay in hiding. I kept four clowns in with a rainbow shark and I never saw the loaches at all. Once I seperated the two types of fish into different tanks, the loaches came out a lot more for me to see.

Chineese algea eaters are quite large when full grown and they are pretty aggressive. However, they are really good algea eaters. So good in fact that I had to feed mine two to three algea wafers every other day to keep it healthy even though the tank I had him in had what alot of people call 'old tank syndrome' and algea grew like mad in it. It had cleaned all the algea up in a couple of weeks and it was not growing back fast enough to meet the CAE's dietary needs. I ended up trading him back in for store credit because it would actually attack the thermometer I had in the tank and I was really afraid that it would break it.