Nano Tank

[summat fishy]

hi people just wondering what i could use this tank for as it is?i have a powerhead and a heater already dont think i comes with them. would this tank be ok for keeping dwarf puffers? and is it possible to have it as a marine system? obveously its either or but if its ok for low light marines i might give it a shot. thanks in advance, summat fishy. nano tank

 

[Squidman]

I thought puffers are brackish water fish?

 

[summat fishy]

sorry link isnt working ebay item number 320146063510

 

[eschaton]

I thought puffers are brackish water fish?

Not all of them. Some are saltwater, some fresh, and some brackish. It just so happens the two most commonly-sold species (figure 8 and green-spotted), are both brackish.

 

[PRW1988]

Dwarf puffers are the only true freshwater species, at some point in time all other puffers need to be full acclimatized to saltwater.

To answer your question, I'm not sure... the link has some problems, but I think it's either a 30L or 30Gallon tank as it says "wave-30-nano cube". You could do a small saltwater tank, but a nice planted tank with Dwarf puffers and some shrimp would look very nice.

 

[eschaton]

Dwarf puffers are the only true freshwater species, at some point in time all other puffers need to be full acclimatized to saltwater.

That's not true, there are a number of other freshwater species, including the Red-Eye Puffer, the South American Puffer, and the huge Mbu puffer.

Anyway, it's a 30L tank. A pair of puffers could fit in there.

I've seen marine systems much smaller than this on nanoreef.com, and it's perfectly suitable for a marine tank provided you have proper lighting for the corals and don't put in more than one fish (or maybe two really, really tiny gobies. Keep in mind your heater and powerhead might be too powerful for a tank that small.

 

[PRW1988]

Dwarf puffers are the only true freshwater species, at some point in time all other puffers need to be full acclimatized to saltwater.

That's not true, there are a number of other freshwater species, including the Red-Eye Puffer, the South American Puffer, and the huge Mbu puffer.

Anyway, it's a 30L tank. A pair of puffers could fit in there.

I've seen marine systems much smaller than this on nanoreef.com, and it's perfectly suitable for a marine tank provided you have proper lighting for the corals and don't put in more than one fish (or maybe two really, really tiny gobies. Keep in mind your heater and powerhead might be too powerful for a tank that small.

Mbu puffers, red-eye puffers and south american puffers CAN live in pure freshwater, however they enjoy brackish water and thrive in it much better than they would in freshwater. Dispite the fact that they can live in freshwater it doesn't mean they should. Brackish water is better for them as their immune system works best with some salt. No salt in the water of a puffer will shorten the life span.

 

[nurglespuss]

Mbu puffers: OK depending on where they are wild caught from originally, will determine the long time tolerance of the presence of salt. Most Mbu are located in the congo river, from the mid point downwards, entering brackish conditions.

However, some Mbu are found in lake Tanganyika, which is fresh water.

So they are perfectly capable of survivng and acclimating to both conditions.

 

[eschaton]

Well, what you're claiming directly contridicts TFF's own Puffer FAQ.

If you want to look up particular species, I suggest you look at their profiles at pufferpedia at the puffer forums. There's a world of options out there, and these are probably the most knowledgeable hobbyists on the subject (I personally only keep dwarfs)

I'm not trying to belabor a point here or prove I'm right (as it's dragging the thread way OT - and the OP can't even put a red-eyed puffer into that tank), but I'd hate to see someone misinformed from this thread buy one of these rare puffers and stick them in an environment they don't live in in the wild and don't belong in.

 

[efish]

just though id let you know it comes with heater, filter and light, and can be used for marine, ive had mine running since march with a clown, and a clown goby, cleaner shrimp, snails and hermits, as well as corals

 

[nurglespuss]

Hi there, just to say part of my degree involved work on fish distribution, where I concentrated on Cichlids, Puffers and the more recent introductions to the great lakes, so yes I do know what I'm talking about. Red Eyes are fine in fresh water, no to belabour the point any further.

 

[eschaton]

Hi there, just to say part of my degree involved work on fish distribution, where I concentrated on Cichlids, Puffers and the more recent introductions to the great lakes, so yes I do know what I'm talking about. Red Eyes are fine in fresh water, no to belabour the point any further.

Sorry, just to be clear, I was replying to PRW1988, not you. I think our replies were only 10 minutes apart and I only saw yours after I finished penning mine. I always had thought Mbu were strictly freshwater until I looked a little deeper (never looked too deep because they're all but impossible for a hobbyist to keep). Learn something new every day

 

[nurglespuss]

HAHA Hi sorry! bloomin forums, pitty theres no way to physically link a reply to a specific post, other than reams and reams of quotes everywhere!

LOL, thanks and many apologies!

 

[jennybugs]

hi people just wondering what i could use this tank for as it is?i have a powerhead and a heater already dont think i comes with them. would this tank be ok for keeping dwarf puffers? and is it possible to have it as a marine system? obveously its either or but if its ok for low light marines i might give it a shot. thanks in advance, summat fishy. nano tank

DPs need a heavily planted tank with lots of caves to explore. 2 would really be the very max you could put in 30L of water, but once you've got the plants, filter, heater and wood etc in there you won't actually have 30L left. It's a lovely tank but I'd go for something a bit bigger if you want freshwater DPs...eg I have 3 in a 55L tank

 

[summat fishy]

just though id let you know it comes with heater, filter and light, and can be used for marine, ive had mine running since march with a clown, and a clown goby, cleaner shrimp, snails and hermits, as well as corals

thanks at least one person stays on topic! what else do i need to turn this into a marine system? how much salt? skimming? and also how often do you do a water change? thanks sumat fishy