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big mick

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Ive kept fish for many years and other than regular water changes and treatments 'when required' Iv never put anything in the water if not needed and my tanks have always been champion.

Ive heard people talking about using Methylene Blue to help the aquarium bacteria free.

Is it more a case of "prevention is the key" or is it "if it aint broke, dont fix it"
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Meth blue is usually used to prevent fungus on eggs, or to treat fungus on fish. It will kill bacteria, which is what you don't want in a cycled tank, as it will kill the good bacteria as well as the bad. Unless you have a fungus problem and don't mind doing 50% water changes daily, don't use it. It is not designed to be a preventave medication.

Tolak
 
I would side with, 'if it aint broke don't fix it'. I gained most of my experience before most of the luxury chemicals came out (or maybe I was just too poor to consider them). My fish did fine then. So as I get deeper back into my aquatic hobbies, I don't see a reason to change. Besides, without the chems ,worse comes to worse, I get a lil algae. With the chems, worse comes to worse and I over treat my tank and kill my fish. I consider it as, who is it better to inconvenience, me or my fish....
 
I agree with the others, I wouldn't use a regular "just in case" treatment. Methylene blue has some good qualities but it is pretty potent stuff, which will kill good bacteria aswell as bad. It also stains everything blue and even tints your water.

IMO a better product is Melafix which does not have as many side effects and is a natural product. Still best used as a treatment though rather than prevention.
 
In fact, beyond "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" no medicine should be used unless the disease is confirmed to be what you are treating. That is, no preventative medications ever.

The reason is simple, if you keep dosing preventative medications, all you do is breed medication resistant strains of the bacteria/parasite. Then, when you need the medicine for a real outbreak, the strains are completely impervious to that medicine. Worse yet, your home-grown strain of certain medicine resistant bugs get out (you trade fish at a show, sell some extra stock to the LFS, or just give them to friends) and now the strain gets out.

If you think it cannot happen, just look at the problem staph infection have become in hospitals. It used to be several years ago a staph infection was nothing, penicillian knocked it out cold. But nowadays there are several resistant strains, and even some apparantly resistant to all the known medicines. The number of staph deaths rise each year. The rate of mutation of these creatures, and thereby the rate they acquire immunities far outpaces the rate of our discovery of new medicines. It is for reasons such as this that many European countries have banned over the counter sales of antibacterial agents -- something I believe the US could learn from.
 
Thanks to everyone who replied, I dont have any fungus in the tank or anything else for that matter, I never thought about how the bacteria could become amune but it makes sense.
cheers again.
 
if you've been something the same way for a few years without problems, then don't chnag your way of doing things!

like someone said: if it ain't broken, don't fix it
 
Methylene Blue( zinc free ) 100% Can be used to increase oxygen in water. But other then that it has been prove to be of little value in fish tanks. Dosage: 24 grams makes 1 pint. Then use 1 drop per gallon of water. (Don't expect much form this chemical and you won't be disappointed)
 
Finally...I definitely agree with Bignose. 'Preventive' antibacterial medications, anti-infectives or anti-fungals will only lead to resistant strains that may overcome your fish or kill healthy bacterial strains in the fish themselves and leave them compromised. All these medications should be used therapeutically, ie, to treat suspected or active disease. SH
 
Wilder said:
Methylene Blue( zinc free ) 100% Can be used to increase oxygen in water.
Whoa nilly.....nooooooo. Methylene blue is a relative indicator of how much oxygen content there is in water as it will lose it's blue color as oxygen is depleted. In humans, the hemoglobin molecule (keeping it simple), when poisoned, can be 'detoxified' by methylene blue by converting 'met'hemoglobin back to hemoglobin. If any of you ever ordered fish online and they arrived in blue water, methylene blue 'detoxifies' nitrite...the methylene blue helps keep the fish's hemoglobin molecule detoxified during transport. NO WAY does it increase the level of oxygen in the water. SH
 

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