Meds In Unfiltered Betta Tank?

[connorsbala]

Hey,can u use medications in unfiltered tanks? stuff lie melafix and whitespot stuff? Help ASAP please

 

[WILDER]

As long as you have an airstone running it should be fine.

 

[fishboy619]

probally not a good idea, may i ask why you dont have a filter in your tank, do you have a heater?
what size is the tank.

 

[WILDER]

Some meds wipe the bacteria colony out in a filter anyway.
As long as you clear the waste out daily with a net should be fine with just the airstone.

 

[zoekin8yg]

The filter isnt the issue, its the airation, the filter can remove the meds especially if it has carbon in. You just have to make sure you dont add excessive amounts

 

[wendyngd]

The filter isnt the issue, its the airation, the filter can remove the meds especially if it has carbon in. You just have to make sure you dont add excessive amounts

I've used meds in an unfiltered tank, and they really helped my boy. Like was said, I kept cleaning the tank out on ssurface.
But what's this about an airstone? What exactly is an airstone? And don't bettas like calm water more ??

Regards,
Wendy

 

[zoekin8yg]

They do like calmer water but with meds you need to aggitate the surface as they can lower the o2 content of the water. It doesnt have to be many bubbles a second.

 

[fry_lover]

really sorry about this, coz it doesnt answer the question really, but why the devil do some peeps keep betta's in tanks with no filters? whats that all about?

 

[zoekin8yg]

really sorry about this, coz it doesnt answer the question really, but why the devil do some peeps keep betta's in tanks with no filters? whats that all about?

Any fish can be kept without a filter. Bettas are quite hardy and dont often mind a small amount of ammonia. As long as you keep up with water changes its fine.

 

[stang1]

It's personal choice at the end of the day. I prefer to keep a filter in my tanks but others don't.
You'll find that members on here who keep their Bettas in unfiltered tanks change the water regularly and maintain their tanks extremely well. Their fish are perfectly happy and healthy, which is the important thing.
Another reason people do it is because of the water flow as Bettas prefer still water. I just make sur that my filters are turned right down and have something stemming the flow to create almost no flow at all.

 

[fry_lover]

really sorry about this, coz it doesnt answer the question really, but why the devil do some peeps keep betta's in tanks with no filters? whats that all about?

Any fish can be kept without a filter. Bettas are quite hardy and dont often mind a small amount of ammonia. As long as you keep up with water changes its fine.

Thats interesting Zoe (sorry to distract from the thread to the OP), i was under the impression that ammonia was toxic and very poisonous to the fish, creating unneccesay suffering (like peeps keeping goldfish in a bowl LOL) and that no fish should need to put up with that, even in small amounts. I always figured a filter was a normal part of a tank, just like the water LOL. But perhaps ots different for bettas (i am not experienced with bettas), i imagine that they dont suffer from the effects of ammonia like other fish? i will keep them one day i hope.

hope the OP gets things sorted ok.

 

[zoekin8yg]

really sorry about this, coz it doesnt answer the question really, but why the devil do some peeps keep betta's in tanks with no filters? whats that all about?

Any fish can be kept without a filter. Bettas are quite hardy and dont often mind a small amount of ammonia. As long as you keep up with water changes its fine.

Thats interesting Zoe (sorry to distract from the thread to the OP), i was under the impression that ammonia was toxic and very poisonous to the fish, creating unneccesay suffering (like peeps keeping goldfish in a bowl LOL) and that no fish should need to put up with that, even in small amounts. I always figured a filter was a normal part of a tank, just like the water LOL. But perhaps ots different for bettas (i am not experienced with bettas), i imagine that they dont suffer from the effects of ammonia like other fish? i will keep them one day i hope.

hope the OP gets things sorted ok.

A very small ammount can be tollerated. If you keep up with water changes the levels shouldnt get much above zero as bettas don't produce masses of waste, unlike goldfish. Its a contencious subject to be honest, many people have different views on it. Like stang said bettas often dont like the flow that filters create. I have both filtered and unfiltered bettas, the unfiltered bubble nest much more often than the filtered.

 

[wendyngd]

really sorry about this, coz it doesnt answer the question really, but why the devil do some peeps keep betta's in tanks with no filters? whats that all about?

Any fish can be kept without a filter. Bettas are quite hardy and dont often mind a small amount of ammonia. As long as you keep up with water changes its fine.

Thats interesting Zoe (sorry to distract from the thread to the OP), i was under the impression that ammonia was toxic and very poisonous to the fish, creating unneccesay suffering (like peeps keeping goldfish in a bowl LOL) and that no fish should need to put up with that, even in small amounts. I always figured a filter was a normal part of a tank, just like the water LOL. But perhaps ots different for bettas (i am not experienced with bettas), i imagine that they dont suffer from the effects of ammonia like other fish? i will keep them one day i hope.

hope the OP gets things sorted ok.

A very small ammount can be tollerated. If you keep up with water changes the levels shouldnt get much above zero as bettas don't produce masses of waste, unlike goldfish. Its a contencious subject to be honest, many people have different views on it. Like stang said bettas often dont like the flow that filters create. I have both filtered and unfiltered bettas, the unfiltered bubble nest much more often than the filtered.

How we ended up with our betta in a heated, but unfiltered 2 1/2 gallon bowl: We started out a few years ago (my husband & I) with 1 ten gallon tank with filter and one beautiful purple betta --my first! Gradually, we started adding other fish, mostly a few mollies at first. They all seemed to get along well after an initial breaking-in period of having the betta separated in the tank 'cause he was being a bit agressive.

Then the fry started to come! By this time, we had a balloon molly, and a male and female dalmation mollies also and probably some catfish, too. We raised the fry separately in a little square--net thing attached to the inside of the tank, to protect them.

When the babies started to grow, I donated a dozen to my lfc--they won't even trade for credit--but we want them to have a good home. So, I can't remember, I think we had about 5 young mollies that we released into the tank. And I guess it might have been a bit too crowded, active or stressful for our sweet betta, but he started becoming ill and declining fast!!!

So I originally bought the 2 1/2 gallon bowl to use as a hospital tank, which I did, but the sweet thing didn't last much past a weeki. He had stopped eating and wasn't his usual boisterous, bouncy self!! I was so sad to lose my little buddy, I'm sure some of you might even remember--that's when I joined this great forum, looking for advice and support (which I found was boundless)!

So when my hubby and I purchased our next molly (and this is the actual 3rd one-the other one died from being overfed by an autofeeder while we were away for the week on vacation--I felt so bad), we decided to keep him on his own since the first one seemed so stressed by all that activity, etc.

We really have no room for another tank (I appealed to my honey, but lost-also logically due to more expense, too). So we had this happy guy in the big bowl, with a heater--seeming very happy. When we had to spray our kitchen for fruitflies this past summer (some of which I caught with a flyswatter and gave to betta to feast on-he was thrilled- I'm such a good Jewish mommy!) We moved him into our big bedroom for safety from the fumes--putting him on a waist high table near the foot of our bed, but where we could see him--and we were all hooked (I think he, too, who's always looking at us and dancing for us...from across the room).\ I love being able to see him from my bed when I wake up!


For water changes (weekly, at least), the size of the bowl makes it relatively simple. No gravel, just artifical plants and I can clean and change the water to the same temp in maybe 10 minutes--while he hangs out in a clear bowl nearby. I was netting him from bowl to bowl and last time he seemed upset-hypervntillating so Jolly Sue suggested I make the transition from his one bowl to a smaller bowl I can put into the big bowl, scoop up old water and hopefully, persuade him to swim in. She thought this might relieve some of his stress.. I'm trying it tonight.

Sorry for the "endless fish story"! Thought it important to share other ways of fishkeeping!

Love to all who are probably ZZZzzzzzzzz by now from the length, Wendy

 

[connorsbala]

TAhnks for the replies! The reason i ask is my new female(in a 2 and a half gallon) looks as though shes got whitespot. I want to treat the tan but not sure,as it doesnt have a filter and i need to water changes everyday,and that would mess up the med cporse,would it matter? I thin shes stressed cause she came to the shop on Friday and i bought her on saturday,so ahed have been bagged,unbagged,bagged and then unbagged!
So maybe if i do larger water changes everyday,this may help the whitespot go,right?

 

[liz2]

ha ha I lost the plot half way thro this thread.....If I have a fish with white spot I have always removed them and put them in a small bowl with rain water, sorry gang no heater no filter, and meds...usually with lots of tlc they get better fine. this is when I had my big tropical tank so i used to buy those critter keepers as hospital tanks. No more big tropical tank but just lots of bettas in critter keepers.