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I just found this on ultimate bettas and thought I'd share... I'm getting frustrated at finding so many different and conflicting answers :( So I'll post this and hopefully we can have a debate...If anyone can offer more lists I would be grateful so I can do some research! I'm looking at getting a fish on friday to add to my tank.

# Cherry and Ghost Shrimp: These small, scavenging invertebrates are good tank mates for bettas in that they produce minimal waste, do not mind stagnant water, and can be kept in the same temperature range of bettas (though it will mean faster development and thus a shorter lifespan). Unfortunately, some bettas think ghost shrimp are a large, overpriced snack; if you see your betta harassing a shrimp, remove it promptly. You must also never use additives or medications containing copper to a betta tank containing shrimp, as it is highly toxic to these animals - as well as all other aquatic invertebrates.
# Apple Snails: These colorful snails are an active, attractive addition to a betta tank. They are capable of surviving in lower oxygen environments, and tolerate tropical temperatures - with some reduction in overall lifespan due to the increased speed of development. They also adapt quickly to nipping and are generally too large for most bettas to kill or consume. However, the ideal conditions of both species is compromised to keep both in the same tank; apple snails do prefer oxygenated, filtered water and slightly lower temperatures. What's more, they demand for survival hard, slightly base water - the opposite of the betta's soft, acidic preferences. Finally, you must have a minimum of 5 gallons to keep both a betta and an apple snail, as apple snails are a high waste species demanding 2.5g of water per snail.
# Olive Nerite Snails: These small, rounded snails are the lower waste, smaller size alternative to apple snails. A species that only breeds in brackish or salt water, nerites are a great way to enjoy snails without the risk of breeding. They keep aquariums free of algae, and are safe for planted tanks. However, they are also not as hardy as apple snails, and prefer slightly cooler temperatures. They also need a source of algae to survive, even if in the form of algae wafers, which runs the risk of the betta consuming the wafer and becoming ill.
# African Dwarf Frogs: These tiny aquatic frogs are considered one of the best candidates for a betta's tank mate. The share the same preference for stagnant, warm, soft water, and are not as likely as other fish to attract a betta's aggression. They also contribute minimally to the bio-load, a plus for those with 2.5g tanks. However, it is essential to keep water conditions pristine, as they are very prone to bacterial infections with even moderate declines in water quality. What's more, as with invertebrates, African Dwarf Frogs have no tolerance for copper. Finally, be sure your ADF is getting sufficient nutrition; because both bettas and ADFs are carnivores, they will be at odds with each other for food competition. It may be wise to feed the betta or frog in another container, as food competition can illicit aggressive behavior.
Note: Do not mistake the African Clawed Frog, a species that grows to some 5" and consumes fish, with African Dwarf Frogs! An "albino ADF" is a mislabeled clawed frog! Always check the front feet for webbing; if it is lacking, you have an African Clawed Frog.
# Otoclinus Catfish: Many betta keepers house otoclinus catfish with their bettas. These small, low-waste fish are fantastic additions to planted tanks and greatly reduce algae. They are fast without being distracting, dully colored, and do not share the same water space as bettas - thus, they seldom encourage aggressive responses from bettas. However, they require an extremely stable environment, and thus require a matured, cycled tank - preferably planted. When stressed by fluctuations in water temperature and parameters, their digestive systems may shut down. It is also important that harassment from the betta be monitored, as this form of stress can be equally serious. Finally, remember that otos are a social species that prefer living in larger groups. It may be difficult to accommodate this need in tanks that are not at least five-ten gallons.
# Corydoras Catfish: Dwarf, albino, panda, and other small cories are another popular bottom feeder to keep with bettas. Hardier than otos with a greater acceptance of scavenger wafers, cories make for a hardier algae eater in a filtered betta tank. However, they are also larger and a shoaling species, which means that they demand a group preferably numbering at least six, but always more than four. Even a ten gallon tank could thus build up a heavy bioload, in which case over filtration may be required - which in turn could stress the betta.
# White Cloud Mountain Minnows: For a tank mate more dynamic than bottom feeders, the white cloud mountain minnow is often an acceptable choice. This small, peaceful fish does not tend to nip fins, and can usually escape a betta's aggression with ease. They are very hardy, and inexpensive to purchase. However, they also prefer cooler water, so your betta's tank will need to be kept at the lower end of the preferred range. Also, a tank of at least 10g is preferred to 5g in this instance, as WCMMs are very active; your betta will need plenty of hides and plants to avoid feeling stressed.


I have had my first betta for a week now, and he seems to be very docile... he's not done the bubble nest or flared at anything. He sits happily on the pebbles at the bottom, and plays in the filter water stream... He likes to hide amongst the plants, and isn't very interested in the flaked food I was recommended in the fish shop. His behaviour seems to be different to the typical characteristics of a betta written on here. Any suggestions/ advice would be very welcome :)

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Most bettas don't like flake food. Try him on a very small pellet food. Many people feed Attisons Betta Pro or Hikari betta pellets. I use TetraPrima microgranules and Duncan eats those happily so you could try those if they are more easily available to you.

Live foods like Bloodworm , Brineshrimp and Daphnia can also be fed as a treat 1-2 times a week.

There is already a lot of debate over betta tankmates and indeed a lot of differing opinions.

To be honest Male bettas don't actually NEED tankmates, and if the tank is small, (5 gals for example ) then tankmates are really not to be reccomended , as the extra additions of live friends will make the levels of waste rise and make your water parameters harder to maintain with the increase in ammonia .

As for behaviour, all bettas are different. Some are more agressive than others. Some like to make loads of bubblenests while some are more relaxed. My Duncan rarely makes bubblenests, but he eats and swims well, plays in what little current there is from the filter, and only occasionally flares at himself in the heater glass. He's healthy and seems very content.

If your fish is happy and healthy then you need not worry about him making constant bubblenests ( simply a sign that they wish to breed, just instinct basically ) or flaring all the time.


Bettas do tend to be ok with small peaceful bottom feeders such as cories and generally snails tend to be fine. But common cories like peppered cories albinos ect, need at least 10 gals or more. If you tank is a little smaller than this, then Pygmy cories are better. Don't forget, one or two is no good. They are social fish and 4-6 is really the minimum ( usually 8-10 for pygmies as they are a little more nervous I find )

Otos are also peaceful, but they need tanks to be quite mature ( a good few months ) as they can be a bit sensetive, and unless you have a really noticeable algae problem then you don't really need Otos anyway.

ADF's are often kept with bettas, but sometimes male frogs will try to clamp onto a betta when " in the mood" as it were, so I would say exercise some caution there. I'd also not keep them with a betta in anything less than 10 gals. Frogs are active little things and really need space ( which is also good for the betta to escape them )


Adult Ghost and Amano shrimp should be fine, but baby shrimp and smaller species like cherries may be eaten or picked at so it's really a game of chance there.


White clouds I would say NO. They are a subtropical/coolwater species and will not do so well at the higher temperatures needed by bettas.
 
White Cloud Mountain Minnows prefer a temperature of 18-22C and Bettas prefer a temp of about 26C, so keeping them together may well be a problem.
Corydoras and Otocinclus prefer highly oxygenated water which could also be a problem, although many people have no problems keeping the two together.
Great article though and hopefully answer this FAQ!
 
Thank you for your reply! Was great hearing that my betta is normal :) ha ha! He does seem happy.

I have been reading and re-reading on the forum about tankmates and it was driving me bonkers. lol. I have a 10 gal tank, with a handful of plants and pebbles and things, and some steps which he likes. I was originally planning on getting some neon tetras, and was told they would be fine, but I think I have changed my mind now! I also wanted some shrimp, but have kind of gone off that idea too. I know they can happily live on their own, so I think I will go to the shop, and ask some opinions first hand, and if anything takes my fancy, I might give it a go. As you said, all fish are different in temperament, so you never really know how they will react to each other.

On the food situation, thank you so much. I had read that bettas didn't always get on with flakes, but the shop I bought him from sold me the flakes that they had been feeding him with, and so I thought it would be fine. He's not interested in the slightest though. I've seen him nipping at them once they've gone to the tank floor, but not really eating them. I will try him with the pellets you suggested and ask about the brineshrimp/ bloodworms too.

Thank you very much for your help. :) Super.
 
Hi
The simple answer as to why the "tank mates for male betta" question is so confusing is - each male betta is so so different. Some like cories and some dont, some like rasboras and some dont. There is "no" difinitive answer, and i challenge anyone to prove there is.


, so I think I will go to the shop, and ask some opinions first hand

I dont think you'll get much more first hand answers than you will on here. After all, we have nothing to gain from being less the truthful. Where as, there are certain LFS's that will tell you something either out of ignorance or purely to get a sale. Especially in these economic conditions.
 
I shall take on board all your advice on Friday. Thank you, I will post pics when I get them settled- if indeed I do get anything, if not, I'll take some pics of Mango for you. I appreciate your advice, and love this forum, it's better than a million fish shop people :flowers:
 
If he's in the 10 gallon, is there anyway he could be removed, even briefly, while whatever other critters you get as tankmates are introduced and perhaps a bit of rearranging of the tank interior done while he's out, if at all possible?
That may make a difference as to his accepting tankmates more positively, although I'm glad you aren't getting tetras after all, especially neons, which can be rather nippy.
Have fun!
 
I agree. If You could rearrange the tank decor, move the rocks around,shift his steps to another place, perhaps get some more plants for any possible future inhabitants to hide in and for him to rest on ect, then you could add new tankmates first, then put your betta back in. It will help to cut down the chances on any possible agression from him, as he might otherwise see the new additions as being intruders to his territory and could pick at them .

For a ten gallon, I think a group of 5 cories could work ok. Panda cories are nice, and slightly smaller than the Peppered variety.

Or perhaps an Apple snail? Nice and bright to look at, and if your betta happens to be yellow ( I am assuming he is due to the name Mango? ) they'll match :lol:
 
My tank happily contains:

x1 male betta VT
x8 platies
x2 golden loaches

They are all really happy - no nipping going on here :)
 
Hi again

I really do hate to say this, but Golden loaches normally attain 6" althouth 10" isn't uncommon. They can also become very aggressive with age, which wont go down too well with the betta.

I'm guessing that your lfs said that they, along with 8 platties would be ok in the 10 gallon with the betta? If it was the lfs, i would advise you not to listen to them again. Unfortunately the tank is now overstocked :(

Sorry i cant be more positive :(
 
:( I am planning on moving the loaches when they get bigger - they are really small at the moment... I was unaware that the tank would be overstocked with this many fish... I will sort this asap!!

Thank you :)
 

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