Looking for best fertilizer for planted tank

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This is my first post on here I'm looking for advice on what fertilizer I should be using for my tanks. I have shrimp in one tank and snails in another so it needs to be shrimp safe. I have been looking at tropica fertolfert specifically but I can't find any information on if it's safe for shrimp. Anyone have peespers experience with that fertilizer? Thanks in advance!
 
I've not seen nor used the Tropica product, so a member who has may be able to comment specifically. But in general it might help us to know what type of planted tank you have. Fertilizers for low-tech or natural systems are straightforward, while they can get more involved if you are running a high-tech system.

And, welcome to TFF. :hi:
 
It's low tech for now. I have a ten gallon with with a couple small fish, shrimp and nerite snails. I have moss balls, cryptocoryne, nimphoides, something that looks like peacocks feather but certainly is not haha, and sponge plant. It's just running the cheap lights that came with the tank but seems to be doing fine (slow growing but it's pretty grown out now). I also have a 55 gallon that I have as a community tank. This is the tank I am having issues with. I'm using aqueon led lights (2 18 inch lights I plan on upgrading to something more powerful in the future I know these aren't the best). I have been using flourish by seachem (I also know I need to add macros on top of that that's why I'm here). My lfs only has seachem products which I would need at least 3 different products to get the full amount of nutrients my plants need to grow fast or tropica which is safe for fish but as far as invertebrates I don't know for sure and I want to make sure it's okay before I buy. It looks like it's very similar to thrive based on the websites description but the shop I go to doesn't have it maybe it's not available in Canada? Or if it is maybe someone can direct me to a chain that carries it. Thanks!
 
The issue I'm having is in my 55 gouarmis are eating my sponge plant and I need it to grow faster so it can keep up haha. And would be nice to grow out my other plants as well obviously.
 
It's low tech for now.
I also have a 55 gallon that I have as a community tank. This is the tank I am having issues with. I'm using aqueon led lights (2 18 inch lights I plan on upgrading to something more powerful in the future I know these aren't the best). I have been using flourish by seachem (I also know I need to add macros on top of that that's why I'm here). My lfs only has seachem products which I would need at least 3 different products to get the full amount of nutrients my plants need to grow fast or tropica which is safe for fish but as far as invertebrates I don't know for sure and I want to make sure it's okay before I buy. It looks like it's very similar to thrive based on the websites description but the shop I go to doesn't have it maybe it's not available in Canada? Or if it is maybe someone can direct me to a chain that carries it. Thanks!

OK, a few observations here (on the 55g, low tech).

Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive Supplement is as the name implies, just a supplement. It is primarily intended for low-tech or natural planted tanks with moderate light and no added CO2. It contains all the necessary nutrients except oxygen, hydrogen and carbon, and the nutrients are balanced. This is important to keep in mind, because too much of some nutrients can cause deficiencies of other nutrients or other problems for plants. I have been using this product now for ten years. It takes very little as supplement to fish foods and water changes. And that is where your macros come in; it should not be necessary to add them, nor is it wise. Depending upon the fish load, and the GH of your source water, Flourish Comp may/should be sufficient. Used according to directions, it is safe for invertebrates. But overdosing could cause issues for these, and fish, as well as plants, and lead to problem algae. In most tanks this is probably all that will be needed.

Depending upon your GH, the hard minerals may be insufficient. I have this issue, with my zero GH water. But as I keep very soft water fish, mostly wild caught, I am not adding anything to increase GH, so I found the Flourish Tabs worked. These do not release nutrients into the water column except in the substrate where the plant roots take them up, so the fish are safe.

Second, your issues may be light related. Light drives photosynthesis, and each plant species has its own requirement when it comes to light intensity to do this. And, there must be red and blue light, with more red, to achieve it. Green in the mix has shown to produce the best results, probably because of the increased intensity and similarity to sunlight which is strong in these three. Without sufficient light (intensity and spectrum) the fertilizers will likely result in algae.

Third, plant additives should always be minimal if fish are present. Not only can the plants be negatively impacted, but the fish are. Every substance in the water gets inside the fish, into the bloodstream and internal organs. "Safe for fish" cannot be taken literally.

I live in Vancouver and to my knowledge no store here carries Tropica, so it may need to be ordered online. But having not used it, I cannot comment on its effectiveness or safety.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum :)

I used Sera Florena. It is a liquid iron based fertiliser that is safe for shrimp and fish. I use an Iron test kit to monitor the levels and keep the fertiliser at 1ppm.

And as Byron mentioned, make sure you have enough light. You can add all the fertiliser you like but without sufficient light the plants won't do that well. Have the tank light on for 12 hours a day and monitor the algae over the course of a week. If you get lots of green algae on the glass then reduce the lighting time by 1 hour. Monitor it for the next week and see how the algae goes.

If you don't get any algae on the glass then increase the lighting time by an hour.

If you get a little bit of green algae on the glass then that is about right.
 
My lights are full spectrum but I was running them only 8 hours a day so I will increase to 12 because I don't really have issues with algae and see how that does. Thanks for the tips.
 
They arent to bad of lights just nothing special. Got two of em for 40 bucks total on clearance at PetSmart. I want to upgrade to one I can control from my phone with a built in timer when my budget allows it but for now these will do for sure.
 

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Increasing the light duration each day is not going to help, and I do not advise it. It is the light intensity and spectrum that drive photosynthesis, regardless of the duration. Plants will thrive equally well with six hours or eight hours or twelve hours, provided the nutrients are sufficient for each stage.

Duration cannot and does not make up for inadequate intensity.

Here you have failing plants with eight hours, so the issue has nothing to do with duration, but either intensity/spectrum (if it is the light) or nutrient availability. Or both.
 
It helps when intensity is not up to scratch.

I'm sorry, but this is not the case. I have gone into the botany with botanists like Tom Barr, George Farmer, and intensity is what drives photosynthesis, not duration. Each plant species requires certain light intensity for photosynthesis, and if this is not available, the plant cannot fully photosynthesize.
 
Whilst intensity does drive photosynthesis, plants will photosynthesise under low light, they just don't do it as well. Some plants perform better under low light and others struggle. With aquatic plants, the water reduces light so they don't get as much light as terrestrial plants growing in the same location.

Unless the OP wants to buy a new light unit, the next best way to help plants is to increase the photoperiod. It isn't as good as increasing intensity but it is the next best thing besides buying a new light unit with a higher wattage.
 
I would like to see your scientific evidence that duration makes up for lack of intensity.
 

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