Little Clown Loach Is Picked On By The Others.

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So my mom has a community large tank with clowns in it. For a while, the clown loach dubbed Marmalade was thriving in her group. But, a hurricane struck and she was the only loach to survive the power outage. Even after we got the tank back and running again, we wanted to wait for a bit before adding more loaches. She was very happy even on her own, seeming to be more open. She was brightly colored, and simply schooled along side the danios. We added more clown loaches for her anyways, the LSF only had two though. They were a bit bigger, but not much. She was about an inch, being young, and they had only a few millimeters on her.
 
She was frightened by them, and we had assumed that she just needed to get used to other loaches again. But after nearly two years, things have only been changing for the worst. Marmalade is still her measly inch, and now, the others are double her size. Needless to say, they pick on her.
While they are a brilliant deep orange and black, with dark, crimson fins, she is a light orange, with faded red fins. She's a bit thin, predictably.
 
Since the shoal is only three, should my mom add more, smaller loaches to even out the hierarchy, or should she just sell the two bullies?
 
One strange thought was to put Marmalade in my tank for a while. This could never be its permanent home. I know how large clowns get, and my tank is only a 14 gallon. But maybe she could fatten up a bit in there and catch up with the others a bit more. The only thing in there is a fat, happy shoal of 5 cory cats. She's merged into schools of other species before, and they aren't too far off. Honestly though, I don't think this would work out too well.
 
Please give us suggestions. We don't want to keep Marmalade in this situation. My mom and I love seeing all the fish happy, and seeing the once cheerful and happy fish so shy is heartbreaking and I'm guilty for even suggesting we even add more in the first place.
 
Blondielovesfish said:
What size is the tank Marmalade is in now?
60 g. It is too small for her anyways, and we are about to upgrade quite a bit though, to a 120, which was what really got me thinking about whether we would add or subtract the clown population.
 
Definitely add to the population. She may fit in with more.
Also, the tank being too small could be the reason she hasn't grown :/ she may be stunted.
 
Blondielovesfish said:
Definitely add to the population. She may fit in with more.
Also, the tank being too small could be the reason she hasn't grown
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she may be stunted.
I hope that isn't the case. Thank you very much. I will update the story in time.
 
Okay.
I hope it isn't the case either but it is possible when Marmalade has been kept in too small of a tank for too long. :/
 
yeah get a bigger tank and 2 more, its strange that she got stunted that much, only an inch long after 2 years!!!, clown loaches average out at 10-12 inches and they grow slow but not that slow. She obviously isn't competitive enough for food but hopefully a bigger tank will give her more opportunities to get away and feed. Best of luck.

and I hope she isn't permanently stunted, i have gotten 5 year old 3" clown loaches and some of ended up 6 inches after a few years and other didn't grow at all so I'm hoping for the best for the little fella :)

And you are really supposed to have a 6ft tank for clown loaches but i think they can make it in a 120G a lot of the time those sizes are exaggerations as long as the fish look happy and aren't getting sick, lethargic, or stop growing the tanks good, and do some of your own research it helps a lot when your reading a lot of different view points and you can kinda find which are BS and which are not. but be warned EVERYTHING is going to a say a minimum of a 6ft tank for clown loaches but trust me I have seen people keep bigger in smaller and pull it off ( once had a rainbow shark, pleco, 5 corys, 6black tetras, 5 hatchet fish, and 2 gold gouramis in a 20 without anything stunting or dieing after 5years so  believe me anythings possible lol). best of luck.
 
It is best to have a 6 foot tank because most clown loaches will get up to about a foot long so the bigger the better.
 
Exactly but it can be done in a 125 just have to make sure water quality, diet, and all around care is pristine.
 
I would suspect this is either not getting a fair share of food (getting bullied by the bigger loaches) and/or the little loach has some form of internal parasites like worms.
 
rainbowsharkman said:
yeah get a bigger tank and 2 more, its strange that she got stunted that much, only an inch long after 2 years!!!, clown loaches average out at 10-12 inches and they grow slow but not that slow. She obviously isn't competitive enough for food but hopefully a bigger tank will give her more opportunities to get away and feed. Best of luck.

and I hope she isn't permanently stunted, i have gotten 5 year old 3" clown loaches and some of ended up 6 inches after a few years and other didn't grow at all so I'm hoping for the best for the little fella
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And you are really supposed to have a 6ft tank for clown loaches but i think they can make it in a 120G a lot of the time those sizes are exaggerations as long as the fish look happy and aren't getting sick, lethargic, or stop growing the tanks good, and do some of your own research it helps a lot when your reading a lot of different view points and you can kinda find which are BS and which are not. but be warned EVERYTHING is going to a say a minimum of a 6ft tank for clown loaches but trust me I have seen people keep bigger in smaller and pull it off ( once had a rainbow shark, pleco, 5 corys, 6black tetras, 5 hatchet fish, and 2 gold gouramis in a 20 without anything stunting or dieing after 5years so  believe me anythings possible lol). best of luck.
 
 
At the end of the day, the aim is to provide the best and most adequate environment for the fish, thriving is much better than surviving.
 
I know but sometimes when you tell someone to just straight up get rid of their fish of 2 years they don't like it, and it can be done so I like to give hope to people, now if her fish end up sickly, stunted, or have other health complications then yes get rid of them but they should be good in the meantime..
 

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