Lampeye Problems

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I have a group of 20 lampeyes, lost one 2 days ago, thought it was a swim bladder problem, fish struggling to stop its self floating to the top, body a little contorted, not eating.
Today I found another one dead and I have 3 more exhibiting the same symptoms.
All tank parameters are fine, zero ammonia, zero nitrite, nitrate less than 10.
Anybody have any ideas?
 
What is the size of your tank? When was your last water change? What are your current ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels? What other fish are in the tank? How many fish in total?
 
Just updated , all water parameters fine, last water change a week ago using api water conditioner
 
How long have you had them?

There are a lot of different lampeyes (one of my favourite groups of fish). Are they Poropanchax normani, Norman's lampeye?

What are the tankmates?
 
Yep, Normans lampeye, had them about 3 weeks.
Only tankmates are a couple of bristlenoses (small) and 4 Amano shrimp
 
ok update, I now have 3 fish isolated all showing the same symptoms, swim bladder not fuctioning and all 3 are bent/curved to the left.
The strange thing is they are all feeding (brine shrimp this morning) and there is no loss of colour. could this be a genetic issue or old age?
I should add that all the others are fine.
Any ideas folks?
 
3 weeks suggests a disease from the fish farm. Generally, when I get new fish, I quarantine them for 6-8 weeks, or longer. In that period, things like you are describing can happen. It's generally nothing you're doing - it started before you'd even seen them.

It's unlikely to be genetics, and store fish are young. They breed them and move them to market fast. But there is a host of bacterial or viral illnesses that can hit them after the stress of shipping, the store and then being brought home. There isn't much we can do about most of them, except wish we could do something.

P. normani is a generalist with its needs - it can thrive in soft or medium hard water. It doesn't like its water too hot, but that wouldn't be a cause here. I used to keep wild caught normani as I did work with an importer, and they were always mixed in with other species. Once the farms got hold of them and started mass producing them, the fish we get are nowhere near as hardy, and are harder to breed than the wild ones.

I bought half a dozen farmed normani in the autumn, and only 2 are still alive. I have about 20 babies, and I expect they'll be long lived, hardy fish like their wild ancestors. But I bred them quickly because I was worried the store bought ones would fade out. When they're healthy, they are hardy, but getting healthy ones can be a challenge.
 
pictures and video of the fish?
upload videos to YouTube then copy & paste the link here. Hold mobile phone in landscape mode when filming fish.
 
Sorry Ive been missing in action, health issue.
Anyway what ever the issue was it seems to have abated, all the remaining seem happy and healthy, eating well and all parameters are normal.(Zero Ammonia, Nitrate, less than 10 Nitrate ph around 7.0). Thank you for everyones input, hopefully whatever it was it has passed.
Looking forward to breeding these little darlings.
 
What nitrate test do you use that can distinguish 7 ppm from 10 ppm? I would to have that kit.
 
I think you misread my post, the nitrate is less than 10, and ph is around 7. hope that clarifies it for you.
 
I don't know why but the nitrate tests are like exponential.

Very precise at low readings but, up to 10 ppm error at 20. And 40 at 80, 80 at 160... So on.

It is, what it is.
 

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